Big Chief201 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 My brakes have gotten extremely mushy and i need to bleed the air out bad i tried to do it but it didnt work....... anyone want to give a hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Get yourself a pump down at AutoZone or the like. It will save you mucho time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 get some speed bleeders and it will be easy, and then get some extra and give them to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I did mine last fluid change manually with no pump. Just need to find a tube that fits it. But I'm purchasing a pump for my next one probably.It's easy. Just don't EVER let any of it get on your paint. I covered my plastics under it with towels just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Vacula for the win...it's a snap-on tool.If you do get any brake fluid on your bike; wheels, plastics, frame, etc. You can neutralize it with water. Just keep a spray bottle of water handy while you are bleeding them.Without a pump the best way to bleed brakes and actually something I do after using the vacula is to slowly pump the brake several times then hold it in and quickly crack the bleeder and close it then re-pump the brake several times. That will produce the stiffest brake. I'd be glad to help if you were closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Without a pump the best way to bleed brakes and actually something I do after using the vacula is to slowly pump the brake several times then hold it in and quickly crack the bleeder and close it then re-pump the brake several times. That will produce the stiffest brake. Yep, that's what I did mystery homie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotaman88210 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 If I wasnt gonna be running around like a chicken with my head cut off tonight Id come over and help ya out. Im trying to get everything ready to go to Road America tomorrow. If you do buy the pumo tho let me know so I can come over and use it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 They got mushy? Doesn't sound like you need to bleed them to me. Only time you'd have air in the lines that would require bleeding is if you just put new brakes on. If you haven't done anything to your brakes and they just started feeling mushy, then you've got problems other than air in the lines. Just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotaman88210 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 No, they can "just get mushy" It happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Chief201 Posted June 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 theres definetly air in the lines alot of it..... the pads are fine and have alot of life left on them. I'm going to get a pump tomorrow... so for all you who need one come on over.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 a common mistake is to mess up the timing of opening/closing the valve. if you get a pump make sure you are applying a vacuum when you close it. also make sure you don't let the fluid level in the resevoir get low enough to let air in the lines.it's possible you could be having a master cylinder or caliper issue..one of the previous posters was right about that...but bleeding is the first and easiest step. make sure u do it in the right order too. MC..then closest caliper..then farthest caliper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotaman88210 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Furthest caliper first man!!! Furthest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellBender Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 You don't need a pump. They are more than easy to bleed by using a wrench and squeezing your brake handle.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v65rider Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Bleed the brakes like everyone has said then find how air was intraduced into the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Furthest caliper first man!!! FurthestThat makes sense, because air rises..and I have been told that in the past. But I have also been told MC, then nearest caliper, and I have a manual in front of me that states the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC51 John Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 get some speed bleeders and it will be easy, and then get some extra and give them to meI loves my speed bleeders. I change out the break fluid every spring. Clutch too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Try cracking the nut right where the hose meets the master. Air can get trapped in there and give you fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420gsxr1000 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 myteevac....somewhat cheap,,,makes em rock hard when done right, which is easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APCh8r Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 myteevac....somewhat cheap,,,makes em rock hard when done right, which is easyyea we have those at pony, they work great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Chief201 Posted June 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 anyone got one i can barrow seems like if someone has one would be a waste for me to blow 40 bones on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 If you were in Lorain you could borrow mine.Like someone else said..you don't NEED a pump. But it makes the whole thing so brainless and error free it's not even funny. Of course you can do it without one..but having one is worth SOO much it's really not even funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 No, they can "just get mushy" It happensYou aren't gonna just all of a sudden get air in your lines. Something has to cause it. So the brakes were either not bled properly to start or there is another problem somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotaman88210 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 They can get mushy over time when you use the brakes hard. Mine do it about twice every season. More often on the Race bike... I like them to be hard all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 first, brakes can become soft or mushy due to heat from using the brakes over time. Heat breaks the fluid down and air can get in via bubbles created. Otherwise, you could bleed the system once and be done forever. For racing, we bleed the system once a day at minimum.Oh, do top and then furthest caliper like yoga said and the second caliper. I hit the top a second time.Screw that pump deal... I use a bottle of water and a hose. Perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleCock Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 I like them to be hard all the timethat was too easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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