Guest powers Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 many topics have been posted about the idea of doing this. But this article says it's already in place and people are being convicted on the information stored. Does your car have one? http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/internetprivacy/2004-12-27-auto-blackbox_x.htm?csp=34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin5s Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 I'm sure my car does.. the question is, how the hell do I get it out of my car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 interresting... Thats one of those things that can either be really good, or really bad. I didnt see anything about them tracking steering wheel movement. So they wont be able to see that the person was steering away from trouble, or towards, whatever the case may be. And seeing that the person accelerated before the accident doesnt mean he/she was trying to make it worse, in some cases its better to speed up to get out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 "For example: When AutoWeek conducted handling tests on a mundane Chevy Malibu Maxx hatchback earlier this year, the recorder automatically alerted GM OnStar officials, who called the car to make sure the driver was OK after a particularly severe cornering maneuver. The driver was, but later said he resented the intrusion." I wouldn't be happy if that happened to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy1647545504 Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 I don't have one in either one of my cars, and until someone comes up with a way to disable it, or flash it, I don't think that I will consider buying a newer car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
302Powered Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 I think I'll also stick with my older cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Advocate Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 That's creepy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suffocateXfaster1647545505 Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Originally posted by CivicPowered: I think I'll also stick with my older cars.+1 They seem to run better too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowmotionMotorsports Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Sounds like Big Brother is Watching....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohio_wookie Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 i love big brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 mine dont smile.gif i don't think i will buy anything newer than 2000 (unless it's the daily) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 My Firebird doesn't have one. If it did, I'd be in jail for the next 20 years graemlins/grin2.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Originally posted by Formulate: My Firebird doesn't have one. If it did, I'd be in jail for the next 20 years graemlins/grin2.gif Yes it does, it's in your BCM just like in my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Originally posted by Fornicate: Yes it does, it's in your BCM just like in my car.Oh well, see ya in 20 years tongue.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Originally posted by Formulate: Oh well, see ya in 20 years tongue.gif The only way anyone is pulling the data from it is if they tear the BCM out of your dash (it's not easily removed). They had also better hope you were JUST speeding because it only stores the last five seconds. It's designed to be used in a deadly crash situation where the airbags deploy, so that the insurance company/authorities know what the hell you were doing when you died. All OBDII vehicles have this, whether you like it or not, and articles like this one do nothing but pray on the uneducated and start mass hysteria among automobile owners. I don't know what the import makers are doing, if they are including another box or not, but I know this about the Domestics for a fact. However, I do agree with the bit about OnStar and I would never, EVER own a vehicle with it. I could go on about OnStar for days but I'll just say this - if any of you have it, once your subscription is over, REMOVE it. Consider OnStar to be OBDII.5 - OBDIII will be something to fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex1647545498 Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Just buy lower end or older cars. I'm sure they wouldn't have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimvr4 Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 I feel it is an invasion of privacy, if you want to be stupid and crazy well its your own free will . consitutional right and should be aginst the law. Theres a up,and down side to it also like the three people killed on 71 (R.I.P.)... if the guy was going a million miles an hour its just that much more evedince aginst him..maybe enough for the death penalty??? but also it one of us was to wreck (knock on wood) they would say oh look at this he might have only hurt himself but he's a danger to the public. There goes driving privlages for life..(could happed in near future the way the laws are going... so its a coin toss to weather or not it is a good thing... just something to think about.. Theres good and evil in everything in the world ...it's just depends on how it interpretated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Originally posted by Formulate: Oh well, see ya in 20 years tongue.gif they send you to jail for 20 years for standing in parking lots?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harris92 Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 That is terrifying that they can do that kind of shit. Oh well, for once it feels good to own an 11 year old dsm. graemlins/thumb.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Originally posted by Car Enthusiast: they send you to jail for 20 years for standing in parking lots?????? Again, my car's been to the track numerous times this year. Where's yours been? Oh yeah.....into a concrete median, dodging bottles on campus, waiting for Ebay parts to show up so it can look like a car again. Everywhere but a body shop tongue.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HERWS6 Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 I've got Onstar and take my car to the track all the time and race. No problems here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 There's a big anti-onstar site, i'll have to find the link. Better yet, google for it, that's how I found it. It shows you how to "disable" features such as this. It also shows how to remove the onstar unit and use it (hooked to a PC) as a GPS nav system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jpurdy2003 Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 It was my understanding that only GM uses this for now. All the cases I've read about where this information was used involved GM cars, almost exlusively f-bodys and vettes. I'm sure that the aftermarket will eventually figure out a way to either fool or bypass this device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ranger_Man Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 Originally posted by Fornicate: uneducated97% of CR? graemlins/lurk.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 I've always said that they are listening to me over the Onstar.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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