Devils Advocate Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Neo Pee: Is there a niche market for porn staring men with very small penises? Just wondering, looking for a side job to make some extra money. HOLY SHIT! You owned yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyPimpstress1647545491 Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Neo Pee: Is there a niche market for porn staring men with very small penises? Just wondering, looking for a side job to make some extra money. Jesse... you're a total nerd.. but thanks for the morning laugh! tongue.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Pony Pimpstress: Jesse... you're a total nerd.. but thanks for the morning laugh! tongue.gif Not a problem, I do my best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony_K Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 To think that pornography and promiscuity are not detrimental to society and to the emotional, physical, social, and intellectual health of the individual is to be ignorant to all of the world's collective scientific and academic knowledge on the subject, as well as to have no common sense. I can't believe how many people are oblivious to the obvious repercussions of certain kinds of behavior. How much time do you think clean, responsible, productive people who contribute to society spend watching porn or going to strip clubs? As for morals, they are more universal than "liberated" westerners of the last 40 years would like to think. For at least a few thousand years, completely unrelated societies and cultures have arrived at similar moral standards out of striving for what is best for their society and trying to improve their existence. Do you think it is a coincidence that every single society in history that ever flourished valued the institution of Marriage and shunned prostitution? +1,000,000 for Garrett Shame on the kid who is working for the porn company, and pity the people who waste their time, money, and quality of life on porn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyPimpstress1647545491 Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Tony_K: Shame on the kid who is working for the porn company, and pity the people who waste their time, money, and quality of life on porn. So what you're saying is that since you have had these views, you have never watched/baught porn, or "wasted time" on porn ? tongue.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desperado Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hmmm, first to the slightly misinformed member that stated that the porn industry is the worste thing ever, you are mistaken. The worste thing to be involved with is being a liberal democrat, that IS the worste thing ever! As far as wanting to be a porn star, I would, but you all would recognize me, the guys would be jealous, the women would all want me. And It would just cause problems with you guys being pissed cuz your wives/GF's would want to bed me. So I will have to pass this time around. As far as the drugs and the like. Doing drugs is a choice. No one is standing there putting a gun to your head making you get high. You deside to do that, and you deside to pay the piper when you do. There is going to be a level of drug use in all prefessions from prostitutes to preachers. The fact that the porn industry gets talked about is that mainstream America doen't want to admit to using their product and the people that make documentaries about the industry dont' like the industry. So they are going to bring up everything bad about it and give you the impression that it's a free for all where the cocaine is handed out in garbage bags, and everyone has sex with everyone else all the time. Do I agree with it, yes, to a point. It is their choice to do it, and it's not anyone's place to say they can't. But I don't feel that they should be showing Debbie Dose Dallas on the Saturday afternoon movie on CBS either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony_K Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Pony Pimpstress: So what you're saying is that since you have had these views, you have never watched/baught porn, or "wasted time" on porn ? tongue.gif I hope I am reading your question correctly - It is correct to say that since I have had these views I have not watched or bought porn. It has been years since I have picked up a porno mag. When I was a teenager, I looked at porn mags like 99% of all male teenagers today do (although probably not as much), but at some point in college I began to realize that it really doesn't do anyone any good, except for lining someone else's pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony_K Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I mean, really, when you're 14 and you're hormones are going crazy and you wanna see some snatch, it's understandable . . . but as an adult, I think its a pretty sad existence if you need to get off to looking at pictures or stuffing bills in an anklet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berto Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Tony_K: I hope I am reading your question correctly - It is correct to say that since I have had these views I have not watched or bought porn. It has been years since I have picked up a porno mag. When I was a teenager, I looked at porn mags like 99% of all male teenagers today do (although probably not as much), but at some point in college I began to realize that it really doesn't do anyone any good, except for lining someone else's pockets.thats why its free on the internet now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by HIgh Risk: graemlins/finger.gifgraemlins/thumbsdown.gif Dont ever put that image in anyones head. That will scar these small children for life. So your not denying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Tony_K: To think that pornography and promiscuity are not detrimental to society and to the emotional, physical, social, and intellectual health of the individual is to be ignorant to all of the world's collective scientific and academic knowledge on the subject, as well as to have no common sense. I can't believe how many people are oblivious to the obvious repercussions of certain kinds of behavior. How much time do you think clean, responsible, productive people who contribute to society spend watching porn or going to strip clubs? As for morals, they are more universal than "liberated" westerners of the last 40 years would like to think. For at least a few thousand years, completely unrelated societies and cultures have arrived at similar moral standards out of striving for what is best for their society and trying to improve their existence. Do you think it is a coincidence that every single society in history that ever flourished valued the institution of Marriage and shunned prostitution? +1,000,000 for Garrett Shame on the kid who is working for the porn company, and pity the people who waste their time, money, and quality of life on porn. The problem with HIPPIES is that they feel THEIR VIEWS and THEIR MORALS are EVERYONES views and EVERYONES morals. To think that people pressing THEIR beliefs and views onto EVERYONE is not the detriment of society is ignorant; Think what YOU want, but don't judge me for thinking what I want. That being said, I'm not a porn freak, I don't go to strip clubs, however I AM for freedom of thought and action. It pisses me off to no end when people JUDGE others based THEIR morals. If some guy wants to go to a strip club, and gets off on shoving dollars in some whores thong, then great for him. But he doesn't need you telling him that he is the detriment of society, or that what he is doing is wrong. edit: By hippie I dont mean free-love long haird hippy, I mean someone who pisses me off, like Al Gore Rob [ 14. May 2004, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: rl ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest floorpie Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Tony_K: Shame on the kid who is working for the porn company, and pity the people who waste their time, money, and quality of life on porn. Not shame on me. It's something I want to do. Sex is something we all do (well most of us) . There are some bad apples out there, but not all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Jesus Fucking Christ If some chick wants to get paid to take it in the pink and the stink while sucking some dude off, more power to her. If some fat slob wants to watch, kick ass. Comparing porn to drugs or rape or anything else is fucking retarded. The level of bullshit on this board is reaching all time highs. Buster Hyman *who is the girl who posted pics of her boobs awhile back if I'm not mistaken* has all the right in the world to be in the porn industry, along with anyone else. If Anthony wants to get paid to smack someone in the forehead with his dick, that's fucking great. Would I watch it? Fuck no. Would I laugh about it? You bet your ass I would. But who are you or anyone else to judge him for it? Are you a better person because you go to church and are in bed by 9p? No. Look at the whole problem with Catholic priests that's been going on. These guys are sexually deprived because the church says they have to be. So, they take it out on little boys which is fucking disgusting. That is wrong. Jerking it to two hot lesbos in a hot tub is not wrong. Now, I know I'm morally bankrupt. There's no hiding that. But would I be in porn? Probably not. I'm not confident enough with myself to do anything like that. Have I filmed and taken pictures of me having sex? Oh yeah. That's the best part of having a girlfriend *which I currently do not*. Would I ever show them to anyone else? Fuck no. Just because you may not agree with porn, doesn't mean it is wrong. It hurts no one except those who are involved in it. If you don't watch or star in porn, then you're not involved in it. I watch porn. Hell, most of it is pretty damn funny. The music is kick ass *sidenote - I have a porn soundtrack CD I bought, fucking awesome if someone wants copies*. So, in a nutshell: if you don't agree with porn, don't watch it. I don't agree with dudes taking or giving it in the ass, but I don't sit around bitching about how it is morally wrong or destructive to society. /rant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony_K Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Rob, You are applying your views to everyone in your statement. Your view appears to be that morals are individual and not universal, and you are trying to force me and everyone else to accept your viewpoint that morals are subjective. Ironically, the views you are pressing in your statement are the views of liberal hippies. I hope you were not calling me a hippie; I am about as far from "liberal hippie" as you will find. The "liberal hippies" are the ones who 40 years ago thrust into the mainstream the views you just expressed. I am all for freedom of thought and freedom of action; I think you will be hard-pressed to find an American or even a Westerner who is not. The point I was making is that just because you are free to choose to do something does not mean that it is a good choice. People today seem to equate freedom of choice with "everything is okay," when there are many things we are free to do that in the long run are not good for us. We are free to smoke and free to bang prostitutes, but we know that smoking is unhealthy and the prostitute will probably give you a disease. My point is that pornography is a bad choice, and if you research the subject of pornography within any disciplined body of knowledge such as psychology, sociology, psychiatry, history, or even political science you will quickly find a plethora of verifiable reasons why pornography is largely detrimental to both the individual and the society. As for judging people - We are all entitled to our opinions. This is freedom of thought that we all value. To judge someone based on their sex, color, background, socioeconomic status, or other factor beyond their control is wrong. However, to disagree with a person's ACTIONS and INDIVIDUAL CHOICES and what they do of their OWN FREE WILL is perfectly acceptable. To hinder that is to hinder freedom of thought and speech. Just as someone is free to work in the porn industry, I or anyone else am free to state that that is shameful. An open discourse is a healthy thing, where all parties are free to express their rational and thoughtful viewpoints. It is a shame today that so many people are either afraid or unable to do so. Cheers, TK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 VVV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Tony_K: Rob, You are applying your views to everyone in your statement. Your view appears to be that morals are individual and not universal, and you are trying to force me and everyone else to accept your viewpoint that morals are subjective. Freedom of thought and action would lead to the belief that morals ARE subjective, no? ________________________________ Since we cant quote more than twice apparently.... People today seem to equate freedom of choice with "everything is okay," when there are many things we are free to do that in the long run are not good for us. We are free to smoke and free to bang prostitutes, but we know that smoking is unhealthy and the prostitute will probably give you a disease. My point is that pornography is a bad choice, and if you research the subject of pornography within any disciplined body of knowledge such as psychology, sociology, psychiatry, history, or even political science you will quickly find a plethora of verifiable reasons why pornography is largely detrimental to both the individual and the society. ___________________________________________ Again, that's your opinion. Yes we all know smoking can kill you. Thats a fact. What is NOT ok is judging someone because they smoke, or look at porn, or whatever. Who are you to say that it is a bad choice for everyone? As for judging people - We are all entitled to our opinions. This is freedom of thought that we all value. To judge someone based on their sex, color, background, socioeconomic status, or other factor beyond their control is wrong. However, to disagree with a person's ACTIONS and INDIVIDUAL CHOICES and what they do of their OWN FREE WILL is perfectly acceptable. To hinder that is to hinder freedom of thought and speech. Just as someone is free to work in the porn industry, I or anyone else am free to state that that is shameful.Yes, you are free to do or say what you please. Just as you can tell me something is shameful, I can disagree with you. Judging someone based on their choices, whether you think they are right or wrong, is just as bad as judging someone based on their uncontrollable characteristics. The difference here, and the only thing I have a problem with is the lack of your letter 'I'. There is a big difference between saying that working in the Porno industry is shameful and that it is your opinion that working in the porno industry is shameful. These are not hard facts, they are opinions. You state them like facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony_K Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 You are being hypocritical, because in the above statement, you are stating your opinions as facts, lacking the letter "I". Do you know what the American Psychological Association is? Begin with them for if you want to have an informed opinion about how good or bad pornography is for a person. No morals involved with them; just research. I dare you. Go to a library, find some research articles, and read a little bit. Ask a librarian at an academic library (OSU, for example) for help with a search engine that pulls from psychological journals, and do a keyword search for pornography, and modify it with terms like emotional health, addiction, and abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony_K Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 http://www.apa.org/ have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Tony_K: Do you know what the American Psychological Association is? Begin with them for if you want to have an informed opinion about how good or bad pornography is for a person. No morals involved with them; just research. I dare you. Go to a library, find some research articles, and read a little bit. Ask a librarian at an academic library (OSU, for example) for help with a search engine that pulls from psychological journals, and do a keyword search for pornography. I am very familiar with APA, and I doubt I'll need to ask a Librarian for help with much of anything (I've worked at a library, in an administrative position, for 4 years). How many executives raking in half a million+ a year do you think go to strip clubs and buy porno on a regular basis? Are they the detriment of society? I'm a successful young entrepreneur, I work full time, and I go to school full time. I look at porno. Am I the detriment of society? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Neo Pee: Is there a niche market for porn staring men with very small penises? Just wondering, looking for a side job to make some extra money. Still waiting for an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Tony_K: http://www.apa.org/ have fun. Do some searches for 'pornography' there. Link me to what you find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony_K Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 1st paragraph: Great - you have easy access - you probably have easy access to a set of CDs containing citations. So get to it and then come back and tell everyone what you learned. 2nd paragraph: As for the executives, what does making a lot of money have to do with contributing to society? The question of "contributing to society" has to do with one's existince and functioning in society being a net asset, not liability, to the well-being of others. This takes many forms beyond money. Making a lot of money means nothing more than that you did well for your SELF financially. 3rd paragraph: No, you are not "the detriment of society." Looking at porno is not one of your assets, though. You should be intelligent enough to understand that pornography is one of countless contributing factors, not a determinant of the whole. Since you are in school full-time, go ask a Psych Ph.D. whose focus is on mental health, addiction, or some related field what he or she knows about pornography and how it affects people's behavior and psychological health. Okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony_K Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by rl: Do some searches for 'pornography' there. Link me to what you find. I sent you the link just to make sure you know what the APA actually is. Do the research yourself - I'm not going to spoon feed you. You'll never learn anything that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Tony_K: I sent you the link just to make sure you know what the APA actually is. Do the research yourself - I'm not going to spoon feed you. You'll never learn anything that way. My point was doing a search for 'pornography' on the APA site brings up nothing other than articles about the effects of internet porn on children. (I know there are many journals about it, I just found it humorous that they aren't prominent) What do you consider a contributing factor to society on an individual level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desperado Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Why in the hell has this turned into a discussion about morals. STFU about right and wrong, you all want to preach, find a church. This is a discussion about employment, not about what's right. Back to the boobies!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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