Hillary Clinton CANNOT be Secretary of State!!!

[Disclaimer]

I did... couldn't find any. And I'm the king of internet searches.

[Todd#43]

I did... couldn't find any. And I'm the king of internet searches.

Let me help you:

Last May, he claimed that Kansas tornadoes killed a whopping 10,000 people “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” The actual death toll: 12.

Explaining why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky, Obama again botched basic geography: “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.” On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?

in Cape Girardeau, Missouri, Obama showed off his knowledge of the war in Afghanistan by honing in on a lack of translators: “We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq, then it’s harder for us to use them in Afghanistan.” The real reason it’s “harder for us to use them” in Afghanistan: Iraqis speak Arabic or Kurdish. The Afghanis speak Pashto, Farsi, or other non-Arabic languages.

Then, there’s the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don’t exist, say the magazine’s own historians.

"Let's not play games. I was suggesting - you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my muslim faith"

"I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth. This was the moment -- this was the time -- when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves and our highest ideals." (From an obama speach)

I could go on, but you get the picture.

"King of the Internet Searches"....I don't think so.

[PrincessPratt]

Honestly I don't think ANY republican candidate could have made it into office with the way things are in America right now.

[Todd#43]

Honestly I don't think ANY republican candidate could have made it into office with the way things are in America right now.

Yeah....kinda funny, isn't it?

I mean all the democrats that won house and senate seats two years ago haven't done a thing they promised, yet the current situation is the Republican Party's fault.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111937/Congress-Returns-Mostly-Disapproving-Constituency.aspx

Edited December 5, 2008 by Todd#43

[PrincessPratt]

I saw a bumper sticker today on a van that said, "January 20, 2013....can't get here soon enough!" Hilarious! Just had to throw that out there.

[cmoosego]

well he's the guy now and the dem's have power in the congress.... I hope that something turns this crap around, and frankly I don't care if they get all the credit.... JUST freaking CHANGE the direction folks.....

[Todd#43]

well he's the guy now and the dem's have power in the congress.... I hope that something turns this crap around, and frankly I don't care if they get all the credit.... JUST freaking CHANGE the direction folks.....

The democrats in congress have had the power for quite some time now.

What has changed?

[f4isvt]

After reading all of this I gotta throw my 2 cents in. Obama campaign was run extremly well. And as far as Obama couple blunder's in speeches I think it is safe to say he is smarter than Bush and won't have Obamaism books published.

[Todd#43]

After reading all of this I gotta throw my 2 cents in. Obama campaign was run extremly well. And as far as Obama couple blunder's in speeches I think it is safe to say he is smarter than Bush and won't have Obamaism books published.

He's already got books published. They're not comedies either. Obamaism as a religion is the overall tone of them.

Which is scarier?

[f4isvt]

He has actuall books though. Bush has like 2 or 3 books of how stupid he is.

[Disclaimer]

Last May, he claimed that Kansas tornadoes killed a whopping 10,000 people “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” The actual death toll: 12.

He realized he overstated the number a little while later in the SAME speech. So he caught his own mistake. Palin actually BELIEVES what she says because she's really that stupid.

Explaining why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky, Obama again botched basic geography: “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.” On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?

Srsly? Umm, all of them. I don't know about you, but I can read a map. Looks like the tip of KY is closer to AR than IL. Do I need to pull up google maps and prove to you that the mileage from AR to KY is < AR to IL. Gimme a break there genius.

And you don't even want to go there on BOTCHED geography. Palin didn't even know Africa was a CONTINENT!!!

"Let's not play games. I was suggesting - you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my muslim faith"

Another gaffe taken totally out of context by the wingnuts. Grasping for straws there. Funny how only THAT line gets quoted when Obama immediately corrected himself.

I'm not even going to address the other stuff because your sources are so biased it's not even funny. Rightwingnews.com - PLEASE...

I could go on, but you get the picture.

[DangBruhY]

He realized he overstated the number a little while later in the SAME speech. So he caught his own mistake. Palin actually BELIEVES what she says because she's really that stupid.

Srsly? Umm, all of them. I don't know about you, but I can read a map. Looks like the tip of KY is closer to AR than IL. Do I need to pull up google maps and prove to you that the mileage from AR to KY is < AR to IL. Gimme a break there genius.

And you don't even want to go there on BOTCHED geography. Palin didn't even know Africa was a CONTINENT!!!

Another gaffe taken totally out of context by the wingnuts. Grasping for straws there. Funny how only THAT line gets quoted when Obama immediately corrected himself.

I'm not even going to address the other stuff because your sources are so biased it's not even funny. Rightwingnews.com - PLEASE...

I could go on, but you get the picture.

Apparently you aren't the king of search! You also keep believing all this propaganda as well. Unfortunate...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081113/ap_en_tv/palin_hoax_1

MSNBC retracts false Palin story; others duped

NEW YORK – MSNBC was the victim of a hoax when it reported that an adviser to John McCain had identified himself as the source of an embarrassing story about former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, the network said Wednesday.

David Shuster, an anchor for the cable news network, said on air Monday that Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, had come forth and identified himself as the source of a Fox News Channel story saying Palin had mistakenly believed Africa was a country instead of a continent.

Eisenstadt identifies himself on a blog as a senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy. Yet neither he nor the institute exist; each is part of a hoax dreamed up by a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish, the New York Times reported Wednesday.

The Eisenstadt claim had mistakenly been delivered to Shuster by a producer and was used in a political discussion Monday afternoon, MSNBC said.

"The story was not properly vetted and should not have made air," said Jeremy Gaines, network spokesman. "We recognized the error almost immediately and ran a correction on air within minutes."

Gaines told the Times that someone in the network's newsroom had presumed the information solid because it was passed along in an e-mail from a colleague.

The hoax was limited to the identity of the source in the story about Palin — not the Fox News story itself. While Palin has denied that she mistook Africa for a country, the veracity of that report was not put in question by the revelation that Eisenstadt is a phony.

Eisenstadt's "work" had been quoted and debunked before. The Huffington Post said it had cited Eisenstadt in July on a story regarding the Hilton family and McCain.

Among the other victims were political blogs for the Los Angeles Times and The New Republic, each of which referenced false material from Eisenstadt's blog.

And in July, Jonathan Stein of Mother Jones magazine blogged an item about Eisenstadt speaking on Iraqi television about a casino in Baghdad's "Green Zone."

Stein later realized he'd been had.

"Kudos to the inventor of this whole thing," Stein wrote. "My only consolation is that if I had as much time on my hands as he clearly does, I probably would have figured this out and saved myself a fair amount of embarrassment."

[Disclaimer]

Regardless, she's stupid... and I still proved my point about geography.

Even if she knew Africa was a continent - how many other examples do you want? We had around 50 pages in the other political thread and the last 20 or so were mostly MY links to what an idiot Palin was.

I've done my homework on that chick, and I'm done. She's no more competent than a 4th grader.

[Todd#43]

Srsly? Umm, all of them. I don't know about you, but I can read a map. Looks like the tip of KY is closer to AR than IL. Do I need to pull up google maps and prove to you that the mileage from AR to KY is < AR to IL. Gimme a break there genius.

Ummmm...I know I'm old, and maybe I dont see too well, but it sure looks to me like Illinois BORDERS Kentucky, and Arkansas doesn't.

Wanna pull up the google map and tell me which one is closer?? You're a moron.

Edited December 6, 2008 by Todd#43

[John]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Kentucky+St%2FTN-78&daddr=I-55+S+to:37.026129,-89.188385&hl=en&geocode=FeD6LAIdnIWs-g%3BFSp4JAIdRJ-k-g%3B&mra=dme&mrcr=1&mrsp=2&sz=11&sll=37.030514,-89.274902&sspn=0.237901,0.374908&ie=UTF8&ll=36.943855,-89.208984&spn=3.810589,5.998535&z=7

68 miles from the westernmost point in kentucky to arkansas

98 miles from cairo, IL which seems to be the southernmost point in IL

about this point though

The democrats in congress have had the power for quite some time now.

the last Democrat controlled congress was the 103rd. from 93-95

104-109 have been republican controlled.

we are now on the 110th, which is democrat controlled. about to be the 111th in january.

so from 1993 to 2006, the republicans were in control. the last 2 years have been democrat controlled.

i dunno if 2 years qualifies as "quite some time", especially compared to the 13 years congress was rep. controlled prior to that.

[John]

and while on the topic of botched geography... dont forget mccain speaking of the "iraq-pakistan border".

i think EVERYONE misspeaks from time to time...

[PrincessPratt]

Regardless, she's stupid... and I still proved my point about geography.

Even if she knew Africa was a continent - how many other examples do you want? We had around 50 pages in the other political thread and the last 20 or so were mostly MY links to what an idiot Palin was.

I've done my homework on that chick, and I'm done. She's no more competent than a 4th grader.

I'm just gonna through this in there b/c I'm playing devil's advocate and frankly I'm stuck in a hotel room board as heck! I am a VERY smart, successful woman yet I am clueless when it comes to geography. I even took geography courses in my undergrad yet it was something that never stuck. And honestly I don't care. Now I would have known the whole Africa thing but my point is.....just b/c Palin made a few blunders does NOT mean she is an idiot. I'm not sure who is was on here who said that about her (i don't pay attention to screen names) but I don't see you at her level. It's so easy for us to judge and ridicule when were sitting in our low paying dead end jobs that benefit nobody. Obama won.....can't we please leave this poor woman alone? Geez.

[John]

I am a VERY smart, successful woman yet I am clueless when it comes to geography. .

yeah, but you are not a candidate for the second highest office in the country either.

the things for me that really struck a cord were her saying that alaska's proximity to russia gave her meaningful foreign policy experience, and not being able to name a newspaper that she read, instead stating she read "all of them". even if she never reads the paper, surely she could have just named a newspaper. new york times, chicago sun-times, hell even USA today, which probably came to her hotel rooms every day.

its not even the fact that she doesnt read the paper either, but moreso, to me at least, it speaks of her ability to think quickly on her feet and respond with a rational answer. or at least one that sounds good.

[Todd#43]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Kentucky+St%2FTN-78&daddr=I-55+S+to:37.026129,-89.188385&hl=en&geocode=FeD6LAIdnIWs-g%3BFSp4JAIdRJ-k-g%3B&mra=dme&mrcr=1&mrsp=2&sz=11&sll=37.030514,-89.274902&sspn=0.237901,0.374908&ie=UTF8&ll=36.943855,-89.208984&spn=3.810589,5.998535&z=7

68 miles from the westernmost point in kentucky to arkansas

98 miles from cairo, IL which seems to be the southernmost point in IL

Do you people not see that ILLINOIS BORDERS KENTUCKY????????

THAT means that ILLINOIS is RIGHT FUCKING NEXT TO KENTUCKY.

Arkansas does NOT BORDER KENTUCKY.

Jesus.

[John]

Do you people not see that ILLINOIS BORDERS KENTUCKY????????

THAT means that ILLINOIS is RIGHT FUCKING NEXT TO KENTUCKY.

Arkansas does NOT BORDER KENTUCKY.

Jesus.

lol chill out dude.

i think there is a misunderstanding due to the wording of this quote

"On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?"

the way i read it, and i assume JRMiii read it too, implied that the distance from arkansas to illinois is less than the distance from arkansas to kentucky. that is not true.

judging from your response, i think that what you were trying to say is that the distance from illinois to kentucky is less than the distance from illinois to arkansas. this is true.

[PrincessPratt]

I DON'T CARE....IT'S OVER PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once again.....

Obama won.....can't we please leave this poor woman alone? Geez.

[John]

if you dont like the thread, why do you click on it?

[PrincessPratt]

if you dont like the thread, why do you click on it?

The thread is about Hllliary being secretary of state NOT the crap you guys are whining about! Hello???? I'm sorry but the future holds too much promise to continue to bring up the past time and time again.

[Todd#43]

lol chill out dude.

i think there is a misunderstanding due to the wording of this quote

"On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?"

the way i read it, and i assume JRMiii read it too, implied that the distance from arkansas to illinois is less than the distance from arkansas to kentucky. that is not true.

judging from your response, i think that what you were trying to say is that the distance from illinois to kentucky is less than the distance from illinois to arkansas. this is true.

If you read obama's original quote, he was talking about Clinton doing better in Kentucky than he was, and he surmised that it was because Arkansas was CLOSER to Kentucky than Illinois was:

Explaining why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky, Obama again botched basic geography: “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.” On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?

I believe that its been well proven that Illinois (obama's home state) is closer to Kentucky than Arkansas is.

[Todd#43]

The thread is about Hllliary being secretary of state NOT the crap you guys are whining about! Hello???? I'm sorry but the future holds too much promise to continue to bring up the past time and time again.

Trying to be the "peacemaker" again, or are you just being a forum cop?

I agree with John. If you don't like what's in here, take a hike.