justinwebb Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 so the time has come for me to build a new pc and just looking around for the best parts i can find...been out of the PC loop for a bit on whats hot and new and reliable....will be used for graphics editing and games so i want a high end system so here is the stuff i chose Processor: AMD Phenom 9600 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core Processor http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16819103225 Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-MA790FX-DS5 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813128074 Memory: G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16820231166 Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA-300 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16822136073 PSU: Antec NeoPower 650 Blue ATX12V http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16817371010 Vid card: EVGA 512-P3-N867-AR GeForce 9600GT SSC 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16814130330 that is about it already have a case and dvd burner and such..... always been a big fan of AMD so i will stick with them even if they are a little less fast as Intel so dont try them lol any suggestions on hardware or anyone have anything close or anything i should try different let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I know you have your heart set on AMD, I used to be a hardcore AMD guy myself, but seriously, Intel has better stuff. They aren't how they used to be, where AMD out performed everyone in both price and speed. Jesus, I didn't even realize that nVidia had already released the 9 series. Everything on your list looks solid, though. You may want to look into getting a bluray drive, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I know you have your heart set on AMD, I used to be a hardcore AMD guy myself, but seriously, Intel has better stuff. They aren't how they used to be, where AMD out performed everyone in both price and speed. Jesus, I didn't even realize that nVidia had already released the 9 series. Everything on your list looks solid, though. You may want to look into getting a bluray drive, too. Exactly how I am. I was a huge AMD fanboy but now I have a Core 2 Quad and couldn't be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadz89GTA Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 The Q6600 quad intel or new e8400 wolfdale core2duo mwill eat any amd cpu alive. Not to mention they hit insane overclocks with a decent heatsink. Hell my e6550 hits 3.5ghz with just a little voltage added -=P AMD was good with the AMD 64 but since Intel relased the core2 it owns AMD hard.. For a few dollars more, get the big daddy video card. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127329 Heres a review of why the old school 8800gt still rapes the new 9600 series cards. http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ2Niw3LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadz89GTA Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Core2Quad for 10 bux more http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115018 If you shop around some places are selling them for 199.99 Microcenter has an ad out for them but its an instore sale only. See here http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/05acurarsx/microcenter.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I am looking to get a Mac Pro. I want 8 cores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin5s Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 dude, I just sat there and stared at your avitar for like 5 minutes and I can't remember what your question was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfiveeight Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Go Intel with a P35 or X38 board, and get a better graphics card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmeden Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I am looking to get a Mac Pro. I want 8 cores. 8 Cores are for Mac artsy fartsy hippies. Quad-Quad core is here, 16 cores is the new minimum for relevance. This is why my new workstation is a Dell Poweredge R900. /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Okay here's the deal -- you have good choices everywhere except the cpu and vid card (and m/b but I'm biased and do not like Gigabyte) -- as the others have said, it is a waste of cash in the AMD market right now. I've currently got a 5000+ Black Edition which is a great bang for your buck cpu, but if you're not planning frequent upgrades like me, get the E8400 or Q6600. As for the video card, get the 8800 GT. It will stomp the 9600 GT. Also, I'm not sure how into overclocking you are, but if you are, see if Zalman makes a cooler for the 8800 GT. I usually watercool my cards, but heard good things about it, so I just got done putting on the VF1000 w/ ramsink package on my 8800 GTX on Friday and this thing is overclocking like mad (still finding max o/c), but here are some pics of the cooler (does a very nice job) (I added the 2 80mm fans for active cooling on the ram, i/o chipset, and voltage regulators, which is not needed if you're not getting crazy). Good luck in your build. http://home.columbus.rr.com/razor/Vid%20Card/IMG_0016%20(Large).JPG http://home.columbus.rr.com/razor/Vid%20Card/IMG_0018%20(Large).JPG http://home.columbus.rr.com/razor/Vid%20Card/IMG_0021%20(Large).JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Go intel Q6600 Quad. Unbeatable value. Overclock with a decent motherboard to 3.2+ Get either an 8800GT or 3870 and overclock the pisssizzz outta it. = Set for a while. (especially if you get an SLI or Crossfire rig setup ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSSon Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Desktop? I haven't touched my desktop in a while. Lappys are where it's at! That being said, I'm an AMD fan boy and i wouldn't buy an AMD processor atm. The new wolfsdale and C2Q are just better processors. And 8800XX or ATI 3870(x2!) > 9600GT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I dont know if anyone else thinks this, but does anyone feel that the Phenom is just a way for AMD to say "Look! We have quad core processors too!"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotaprestent4u1647545491 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I didn't go through all the specs however go for a q6600 (trust me and get an zalman heat sink) , an 8800 gt card (can now get for ~200$) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinwebb Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 yea going with the card mentioned up top the 8800 gt anything will be a huge jump up from what i am running now which is a normal amd 1800+ with 512 ram and a geforce fx 5500 lol have been looking into the intel q6600 what is a good mobo that is stable and can be overclocked well and any type of memory i should look for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 yea going with the card mentioned up top the 8800 gt anything will be a huge jump up from what i am running now which is a normal amd 1800+ with 512 ram and a geforce fx 5500 lol have been looking into the intel q6600 what is a good mobo that is stable and can be overclocked well and any type of memory i should look for? Ok, this is kind of a complicated question. Basically, when I build a new machine (Usually every 2-3 years or so), I try to build something that has lots of room for upgrades. I built this current computer almost exactly a year ago, but because of what I chose in terms of things like a motherboard (I am running a MSI P6N SLI), I have lots of room for upgrades. For a processor, I just chose a Core 2 4300, knowing that I would upgrade it to another LGA 775 processor later. I have a 7900 GT OC, which is still a decent card, although not DirectX 10, but like the processor I plan I upgrading it later. Really, what it ends up being all about is what are you wanting to do with your machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 yea going with the card mentioned up top the 8800 gt anything will be a huge jump up from what i am running now which is a normal amd 1800+ with 512 ram and a geforce fx 5500 lol have been looking into the intel q6600 what is a good mobo that is stable and can be overclocked well and any type of memory i should look for? I'm a firm believer (from experience) that one should not cheap out on the motherboard. Its the heart and soul of the system and if you want to do extraordinary duty ie: overlcocking the hell outta something, then you should invest a few bucks. I bought the Asus P5k-Delux WiFi-AP Ed. last year and have never been happier. It has huge heatsinks for every regulator and component, and is quite happy to take my old E4300 from 1.8 to 3.5-3.8ghz. And it's already Penryn proof They usually hang around $200, but you'd be set with any 680i/LT Ect. board for the most part. Also dont' skimp on the power supply. MB & PS can carry you for a long ways if you invest initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinwebb Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 looking to run games, some graphics stuff like photoshop and run movies music and the like...mainly just a good gaming rig though..... had an asus board a while ago it worked well just never had an intel so i dont really know what works and what doesnt...thanks for all the help so far guys i appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 8 Cores are for Mac artsy fartsy hippies. Quad-Quad core is here, 16 cores is the new minimum for relevance. This is why my new workstation is a Dell Poweredge R900. /thread Actually, I have quite a few VMs that require 4 cores to run properly, having 8 would mean I could run the VM and my local OS at blazing speed. Since more and more enterprise networking/development types are using macs it only seems like the future has more to hold than just PC. I am neither artsy nor fartsy, but I like having a *nix based OS so I can run the types of tools I have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadz89GTA Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Get a P35 based motherboard. My Abit IP35E wastes most high end motherboards and I can link you to multiple websites where others have much success with it aswell. If you were going to overclock it I recommend the following: Crucial Ballistix Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148069 Sure it'd only 1066 but it will hit way over that. My ddr2-800 Ballistix is doing 500fsb at 5-5-5-12 with 2.2v which is stock. And if they ever die you call Crucial and they send you new ones. Lifetime warentee pwns, especially with there no questions asked policy. As for the motherboard: Abit IP35-E: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127031 It has the best banfg for the buck performance. The only side is the double boot, but hey if you never turn your pc of and ust let it run 24/7 like myself it's not really a con. I've built serveral core2duo machines but the above pieces I recommended are in my personal machine and none of the duo machines I've built touch mine in terms of speed and stability. I'll let Gillbot chime in on this one he can attest to my pc's baddass-ness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I know you have your heart set on AMD, I used to be a hardcore AMD guy myself, but seriously, Intel has better stuff. They aren't how they used to be, where AMD out performed everyone in both price and speed. Jesus, I didn't even realize that nVidia had already released the 9 series. Everything on your list looks solid, though. You may want to look into getting a bluray drive, too. +1 I switched from AMD to intel after much debate and I wish I had LONG ago. The P35 and a C2D/C2Q chip obliterates the AMD offerings readily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfiveeight Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 yea going with the card mentioned up top the 8800 gt anything will be a huge jump up from what i am running now which is a normal amd 1800+ with 512 ram and a geforce fx 5500 lol have been looking into the intel q6600 what is a good mobo that is stable and can be overclocked well and any type of memory i should look for? I'm with 86Bronco and as i said in my previous post, most any P35 or X38 based motherboard is the best for overclocking intels right now, i have an eVGA 680i and it does fine with my QX6700. I am sure i could get a few hundred more Mhz out of an X38 based mobo. As for the q6600s, they are going for $200 at Microcenter (i don't know when this sale ends but we still have well over 200 of them in stock) and 8800GT cards at $220-240. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I am looking to get a Mac Pro. I want 8 cores. The only downside is finding apps to use all the cores. I run Folding at home. Vmware (2 procs windows 1 proc linux). And the box is still not even close to lags. My work machine is a mac pro. AND Amd blows get a intel and join the rest of the world in owning fast machines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 looking to run games, some graphics stuff like photoshop and run movies music and the like...mainly just a good gaming rig though..... had an asus board a while ago it worked well just never had an intel so i dont really know what works and what doesnt...thanks for all the help so far guys i appreciate it I've got a 965 chip set and it does great. I've yet to hear of a horrible intel combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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