r1crusher Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Max Power, Taurus millenium .40 cal is $349.99 at gun shows. this is a gun that i am lookin at. for my ccvrod/max...I have been carrying a Taurus PT-145 for a number of years now. I've not had it malfunction once and it has never cared about what I feed it. I think if you're going to a .40 just bite the bullet and get the .45. I happen to have an early model which has a long stiff trigger pull, but the current gen. are much better. They also have what is now called the "Second Strike" feature (it has actually been on this gun since it was introduced). It will allow you to re-strike a round which did not fire. Other manufacturers are now making this a feature on their firearms. You can get one for very close to your $350 price range as well...brand new w/ stainless slide and barrel as well.If you were a bit closer I'd be happy to meet up and let you give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXRBirch Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 What is the most effective round for stopping power that is not going to break the bank?I personally carry in my XD(M) 40 S&W Federal Hydrashocks like $26 for a box of 20. im also considering loading a mag with home safe rounds, forget the name of them but they are kinda like a shotgun load for pistols. wont go thru 2 sheets of drywall but will go into a person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Any way you look at the question, it is accuracy that is more effective.Very true.Thanks everyone for all the info so far. Keep it coming. I'll keep a learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Max Power, Taurus millenium .40 cal is $349.99 at gun shows. this is a gun that i am lookin at. for my ccWould like to look at one, but where? Also, where can I find a Bersa dealer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I carry a revolver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Would like to look at one, but where? Also, where can I find a Bersa dealer?Gunshows are good. You get to see everything in one place. I like the Bill Goodman gun shows. The closest to me used to be in the Hara Arena in Dayton. Cheapest prices found anywhere, on everything. And lots of used stuff also. Look for and try to get 40% off full retail (MSRP). It appears that there is also one at Dayton Airport Expo now. News to me. I also see that a gun show is scheduled in Franklin Veterans Memorial Hall in downtown Columbus. I haven't seen one there since Columbus chased all the collectors (OGCA) out back in the late 80's.http://www.gunshows-usa.com/ohio_gun_shows.htmAnd to actually answer a question as asked, Eagle Imports Inc distributes Bersas in the USA. Here is the dealer list for Ohio:http://www.bersafirearmsusa.com/oh.php2009 Jan 3-4 Dayton, Dayton Airport Expo Center Bill Goodman 502-538-6900 progun@gunshow.net Jan 3-4 Lima, Allen County Fairgrounds, tristate gun collectors Jan 3-4 Niles Eastwood Expo Center, www.ohiogunshows.com 330-539-4247 rwalters6@neo.rr.com Jan 10-11 Chillicothe, Ross County Fairgrounds, 344 Fairgrounds Road, Front Sight Promotions, LLC OhioGunShows.net 740-667-0412 Jan 10-11 Cleveland-Berea, Cuyahoga County Fairgrounds, www.ohiogunshows.com 330-539-4247 rwalters6@neo.rr.com Jan 10-11 Wellington, Ohio, Lorain County Fairgrounds, Bill-Mar Promotions, 440-986-5004. Jan 17-18, Athens, OH at the former Goody's building in the 'Market on State' Mall www.ops-shows.com Jan 17-18 Dayton, Dayton Hara Arena Bill Goodman 502-538-6900 progun@gunshow.net Jan 18 Marion, Meeker Sportsman Club. www.meekersportsmanclub.com Jan 24-25 Cincinnati-Sharonville Convention Center Bill Goodman502-538-6900 progun@gunshow.net Jan 24-25 Gallipolis, Holiday Inn, 577 St. Rt. 7 N Front Sight Promotions, LLC OhioGunShows.net 740-667-0412 Jan 24-25 Hilliard, OH at the Franklin County Fairgrounds www.ops-shows.com Jan 31-Feb 1 Akron, Summit County Fairgrounds, www.ohiogunshows.com 330-539-4247 rwalters6@neo.rr.com Jan 31-Feb 1 Columbus, Franklyn Veterans Memorial C&E Gun Shows 540-953-0016 Jan 31-Feb 1 Dayton, Dayton Airport Expo Center Bill Goodman 502-538-6900 progun@gunshow.net Jan 31-Feb 1 Marietta Comfort Inn, MAPFront Sight Promotions, LLC OhioGunShows.net 740-667-0412 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXRBirch Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 40 S&W Hydra-Shok® JHPProducts > Handgun Ammunition > 40 S&W Hydra-Shok® JHP Federal Premium handgun loads are the best around. Hydra-Shok® is the first choice for many military and law enforcement officials across the globe, while Expanding Full Metal Jacket (EFMJ) is unmatched in non-hollow point technology. EFMJ provides higher energy, more reliable expansion, lower risk of collateral damage and reduced recoil—vitally important features for a personal defense round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXRBirch Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Load NoCaliberGrains/ GramsBullet StyleBrandUseP40HS140 S&W180 / 11.66Hydra-Shok® JHPPremium® Personal Defense® Velocity in Feet per Second (To nearest 10 FPS)VelocityLoad NoCaliberMuzzle25 Y50 Y75 Y100 YP40HS140 S&W1000972946923901 Energy in Foot Pounds (To nearest 5 Foot Pounds)EnergyLoad NoCaliberMuzzle25 Y50 Y75 Y100 YP40HS140 S&W400377358340324 Wind Drift in Inches (at 10 MPH)Wind DriftLoad NoCaliber25 Y50 Y75 Y100 YP40HS140 S&W0.20.81.73.0 Average RangeAverage RangeLoad NoCaliber25 Y50 Y75 Y100 YP40HS140 S&W-1.4-5.3-11.6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Don't forget about auctionzip.com...put in gun or the brand.this guys got blackhawks that are near you.....maybe u could find a auction with a sweet peice for cheap...http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/auctionview.cgi?lid=567245&kwd=GUN&zip=43201&category=0heres a smith near u next weekendhttp://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/auctionview.cgi?lid=552562&kwd=GUN&zip=43110&category=0 Edited January 12, 2009 by Gump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vroddave Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Max. get ahold of me there is a gun show in hilliard in 2 weeks i will be going if you wanna hook up. i just put a gun in layaway at Ohio valley traders. s&w .40 m&p. compact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vroddave Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 when and where are you gonna take the class. I may be signing up on monday or tuesday to take it in feb. hit me up on a pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vroddave Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 oh yeah that is the one the taurus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Ramey Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 40 S&W Hydra-Shok® JHPProducts > Handgun Ammunition > 40 S&W Hydra-Shok® JHP Federal Premium handgun loads are the best around. Hydra-Shok® is the first choice for many military and law enforcement officials across the globe, while Expanding Full Metal Jacket (EFMJ) is unmatched in non-hollow point technology. EFMJ provides higher energy, more reliable expansion, lower risk of collateral damage and reduced recoil—vitally important features for a personal defense round.thats what i have in my compact m&p 40 cal crazy bullets would never wanna get hit with one she is on my waste everday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXRBirch Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 that was my thoughts when i first seen this round. mine is the same way, dont leave home without it! too many stupid people in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 when and where are you gonna take the class. I may be signing up on monday or tuesday to take it in feb. hit me up on a pmthats when im going to take mine im pretty sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 thats what i have in my compact m&p 40 cal crazy bullets would never wanna get hit with one she is on my waste everdayI'm willing to say no one wants to get hit with any bullet. Bullets are about placement. Type means very little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyec001 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I agree with placement of the bullet. If you don't have time to aim you shouldn't be pulling a gun.The Bersa is good. It's a good cheap gun. Notice cheap. If I had to get a cheap gun I'd probably go with it. If you can find a good use gun from someone you trust, go with that instead.My advice is head down to the gun store and place with some stuff. Let them know what's in your price range and what you want it for. They'll help you out. You don't know until you go look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 been looking......alot. just educating myself before making a purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 thats the best thing to do. i didnt get to search much seeing as i won mine in a drawing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I like my Kimber but I dont really need it right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Let me borrow it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Let me borrow itnever had a round through it, so no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipdalocksmith Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Do people only get ccw permits and actually carry their weapons on them, simply because if they were being chased they are fairly sure they aren't or their bike isn't fast enough to get a way? I had to ask - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipdalocksmith Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 never had a round through it, so noTo see the Holster for that AR-15 while riding your bike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 To see the Holster for that AR-15 while riding your bike!Its called a sling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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