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Welp, the 350 motor in my boat let go the other day. I pulled it out today and tore it apart. Camshaft came out in 2 piece, and a few rods are fuzzed to the crank. So now its time for a new motor. I have a few questions first. I am goin to do a 6L ls style motor in my boat. I wanna know do normal boat motors have an external water pump to pump the water to the water pump on the motor? Like the lower unit pump???? Secondly, does the water that flows through the exhaust go actually in the exhaust or chambers surrounding the exhaust. Basically I gotta take some stock 6L manifold, turn the upside down and switch sides. I wanna run water through them somehow and keep the water out of the motor. Also what kind of cam selection do I need to look for?

 

Any help is appreciated.

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Welp, the 350 motor in my boat let go the other day. I pulled it out today and tore it apart. Camshaft came out in 2 piece, and a few rods are fuzzed to the crank. So now its time for a new motor. I have a few questions first. I am goin to do a 6L ls style motor in my boat. I wanna know do normal boat motors have an external water pump to pump the water to the water pump on the motor? Like the lower unit pump???? Secondly, does the water that flows through the exhaust go actually in the exhaust or chambers surrounding the exhaust. Basically I gotta take some stock 6L manifold, turn the upside down and switch sides. I wanna run water through them somehow and keep the water out of the motor. Also what kind of cam selection do I need to look for?

 

Any help is appreciated.

 

If you have an Alpha drive the raw water pump is in the lower unit and it sends water to the water pump. You'll need to use marine specific exhaust manifolds. They are water jacketed and introduce water into the exhaust gases about halfway down the exhaust riser. Not sure about the cam.

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Here is the first thing I see when I pulled the motor.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t214/ls2sam/IMG00052-20100906-1406.jpg

 

Some carnage

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t214/ls2sam/IMG00054-20100906-1935.jpg

 

Part of camshaft missing

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t214/ls2sam/IMG00055-20100906-1935.jpg

 

There it is

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t214/ls2sam/IMG00056-20100906-1935.jpg

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Matt, what do you mean, do they just go around the manifolds then? I am trying to figure out how these work

 

http://www.boatheaders.com/images/std%20merc%20header.JPG

 

Yes. The holes at the bottom introduce water around the exhaust, (there is an inner pipe where the exhaust gasses travel without water) and it mixes with the exhaust gases where they meet at the top. Hope that makes sense.

 

Here's an old thread on OSO. It might be a good place to get some info on a conversion.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/general-q/188814-ls-vs-350mag-weight-savings.html

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Matt,

 

Is the inner and outer pipe used for cooling the exhaust inside the boat? Sam and I talked about taking F-Body headers flipping them upside down and running water in the O2 sensor bung to cooler the exhaust when it comes out of the back of the boat.

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Found a set of these that people are using on LSX motors. These are Ford manifolds.

 

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs493.ash1/26926_561640870097_6605880_32719453_1727581_n.jpg

 

 

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs513.snc3/26926_561640880077_6605880_32719455_3702592_n.jpg

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Matt,

 

Is the inner and outer pipe used for cooling the exhaust inside the boat? Sam and I talked about taking F-Body headers flipping them upside down and running water in the O2 sensor bung to cooler the exhaust when it comes out of the back of the boat.

 

Yes. The water jackets around the headers keeps the temps low inside the boat. There's not enough airflow back there to keep things cool enough if you run unjacketed headers. Theoretically you could run straight headers and cool them downstream to keep the transom cool but you would probably need to lose the rear sundeck/hatch to keep temps down.

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I found this on LS1 tech

 

Thanks Cool.

More pics and progress!

Some drilling to make the ford manifolds work.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs542.snc3/29712_562513142057_6605880_32742688_1131158_n.jpg

Got the logs bolted on.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs502.ash1/29712_562513137067_6605880_32742687_4233269_n.jpg

 

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs522.snc3/29712_562513147047_6605880_32742689_7260442_n.jpg

Dropping it in:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs522.snc3/29712_562513152037_6605880_32742690_3851990_n.jpg

Ohhhhhhhhh yeah!

http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs522.snc3/29712_562513157027_6605880_32742691_7321774_n.jpg

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs542.snc3/29712_562513641057_6605880_32742693_8115303_n.jpg

http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs522.snc3/29712_562513651037_6605880_32742694_5048922_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs502.ash1/29712_562513661017_6605880_32742695_510594_n.jpg

Just have some plumbing and wiring to do before she's ready to fire!! :D

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Well, I ended up picking up another 350. Its a brand new rebuild with a 30 over bore. Stock heads with a valve job and a hair bigger then stock cam. I went this route to make reinstalling back into the boat easier and everything will bolt right back on from the old motor. The motor should rev alil higher then the older one and makes a few more ponies. I am guessing around 330 or so. I should have it runnin by this weekend as I have the motor and already all assembled and ready to drop back in the boat. I hope everything goes ok.
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Very nice. Did you do bolt ons or anything?

 

It has felt great having mine out finally. Unfortunately, it was short lived. I popped my drive I'm pretty sure.

 

Oh well, back to the cuddy for the rest of the year.

 

When will you be out at Alum next?

 

 

750 DOUBLE PUMPER!!!!!

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Very nice. Did you do bolt ons or anything?

 

It has felt great having mine out finally. Unfortunately, it was short lived. I popped my drive I'm pretty sure.

 

Oh well, back to the cuddy for the rest of the year.

 

When will you be out at Alum next?

dam that sucks! you didtn get to enjoy much of it but atleast u have... other boats the play with

 

jet ski goes in to get fixed next thursday ...so mabey i can play a few times before its too cold.

750 DOUBLE PUMPER!!!!!

 

hahah

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Well, a 2 min fuck up costed me not being able to fire it up tonight. Got it fixed though and gonna fire it up tomorrow. I am getting good at pulling the motor, I had it out and problem fixed in well under 2 hours. Tomorrow if all goes well which it should then I will prolly be out on the water either sunday or all next weekend.
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