HotCarl Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Does anyone know how i can find a Columbus City Code that prohibits people from having gas/charcoal grills on their apt balcony or deck? No joke, as im grilling out and opening mail and i get this bullshit letter from my apt complex saying gas/charcoal grills are not permitted on decks or patios b/c of some Columbus City code. I think this is total bullshit. Who the fuck are they to tell me i cant grill out on my own deck, yes i may not legally own the property but i have a leasehold interest by paying my rent every month and i dont see any problem grilling a few burgers once every other week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Is it in your lease? Cause city code or not I know most the time these things are in your lease agreement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotCarl Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Is it in your lease? Cause city code or not I know most the time these things are in your lease agreement... I sublett'ed (sp?) this place from my brother when he bought his house. They wouldnt let him out of his lease so i took over. He cooked out every weekend during the summer for 2 years and no one ever said anything to him. i sent him a txt asking if he read the lease and if it said anything about not having a gas grill. Supposably there is a stipulation in the lease that says you cant have one but there was no such stipulation in anything i ever signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs.cos Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 it actually is Fire Code that they are not allowed. Ill see if i can find it. Apartment buildings are not allowed (some dont care) that you cant have them. We learned this wehen we moved into our apartment in dayton. http://www.villageonthegreenhoa.com/images/ohio_fire_code_grilling.pdf Here is the whole ORC on it.. http://www.gdaa.org/legislative/ohio-fire-code/ PDF has the codes.. I think they are valid state wide, still reading.. " Ohio has enacted a new fire code in 2005 and it will affect your outdoor cooking policy. This code affects everything but one or two family dwellings. 308.3.1 - Open-flame cooking devices: Charcoal burners and other open-flame devices shall not be operated on combustible balconies or within ten feet (3048 MM) of combustible constructions. Exceptions: 1. One- and two-family dwellings. 2. Where buildings, balconies and decks are protected by an automatic sprinkler system. 308.3.1.1 - Liquefied-petroleum-gas-fueled cooking devices: (Described as) LP-gas burners having a water capacity greater than 2.5 pounds [nominal 1 pound (0.454 kg) LP-gas capacity] shall not be located on combustible balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction. Exceptions: One-two-family dwellings. LPG tanks for gas grills are 20 lb tanks with 5 gallons of LP Gas. Basically you cannot have a grill on a wooden balcony, unless the balcony has sprinkler protection. The same code disallows turkey fryers, outdoor fireplaces and chimneys also. The Ohio Fire Code was adopted from the International Fire Code, which is used across the country, on military bases and various countries. It will be enforced throughout Ohio. We have had fires in complexes caused by propane grills, etc." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 You can't have a grill within 10 feet of a flammable structure. If it's beyond 10 feet from the building, you're fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Most Apartments dont allow charcoal grills, because idiots dump them thinking the coals are no longer hot, and BAM, Fire and Herpes!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotCarl Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 it actually is Fire Code that they are not allowed. Ill see if i can find it. Apartment buildings are not allowed (some dont care) that you cant have them. We learned this wehen we moved into our apartment in dayton. http://www.villageonthegreenhoa.com/images/ohio_fire_code_grilling.pdf Here is the whole ORC on it.. http://www.gdaa.org/legislative/ohio-fire-code/ PDF has the codes.. I think they are valid state wide, still reading.. Was this a statewide code or citywide? By the wordage they used in the letter they make it sound like its something new that was recently passed. But from what you posted it seems like an older law. Looking out of my deck i can see 2 other buildings, about 2 dozen patios and balconies and count maybe 6 or 7 grills so im guessing this is a rule they dont enforce alot? Either way it just pisses me off, im a normal guy. I pay my bills on time, i dont break the law or sell drugs or anything crazy, hell i dont even play loud music b/c i think its inconsidereate to the neighbors, I donate money to a good cause but it never fucking fails there's always someone or somthing (govt) that wants to piss in my cheerios as soon as i sit down for breakfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs.cos Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Statewide, IIRC. and its been in effect AT LEAST since 2005, cuz thats when we lived in Dayton.. its a HUGE fire hazard to be that close, considering how many peole could be affected by a fire from one. Some complexes have made a public grill available because of this near pool areas. From what i recall about apartment living, they send out a letter at the beginnign of the season, and tahts all you may h ear about it. however, the complex i lived in, the fire department would come by and notify the complex who had them and then you could recieve a fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Was this a statewide code or citywide? By the wordage they used in the letter they make it sound like its something new that was recently passed. But from what you posted it seems like an older law. Looking out of my deck i can see 2 other buildings, about 2 dozen patios and balconies and count maybe 6 or 7 grills so im guessing this is a rule they dont enforce alot? Either way it just pisses me off, im a normal guy. I pay my bills on time, i dont break the law or sell drugs or anything crazy, hell i dont even play loud music b/c i think its inconsidereate to the neighbors, I donate money to a good cause but it never fucking fails there's always someone or somthing (govt) that wants to piss in my cheerios as soon as i sit down for breakfast. I read something in the dispatch a few years ago about them going on enforcement drive in the spring every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I read the exceptions are 1 and 2 family dwellings, so I am not out of code for having my kenmore on the deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 It's a safety thing. I dont thing you are the target of some type of conspiracy or shakedown. Things like this are the reason I live in a house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I'm pretty sure 6 out of the 8 apartments around me have grills on patios or balconies. My neighbors above me do. I can see it being a fire hazard for sure, and if your complex wants to bust you for it, I don't think there is much you can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I'm pretty sure 6 out of the 8 apartments around me have grills on patios or balconies. My neighbors above me do. I can see it being a fire hazard for sure, and if your complex wants to bust you for it, I don't think there is much you can do about it. I think code enforcement or the fire marshal drives around in the spring and sends notices to complexes and then they send notices to the tenants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 I say until the fire dept. knocks on your door or you get a more official notice, then fuck it. Enjoy the burgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 I would hate coming out to my deck into a cloud of smoke from the guy below.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 When we lived at my wife's condo we (and everyone else in the complex) had to grill just outside our garage for this very reason. No grills allowed on deck's or balconey's due to fire code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yeah it sucks... but its a statewide law.. luckily my apt. doesnt care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yeah it sucks... but its a statewide law.. luckily my apt. doesnt care. Do you use a gas or charcoal grill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 I use a gas grill but there are others that use charcoal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro1647545510 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 I remember getting one of those letters too at my last apartment in Westerville. What was funny about was the maintenance man lived right next door to me and grilled out just as much as me. I ignored the letter and nothing ever became of it. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan9381 Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 yeah, i was told no grills and i lived on a 2nd floor with a maybe 6x12 balcony...they said we could store a grill on the balcony, but couldn't keep propane tanks with the grill, and it had to be 10' from building to cook...yeah right, like im gonna carry my grill down a flight of steps to cook, then back up i just took my propane tank, kept it in my spare/storage bedroom, hooked it up, cooked, took it back in. never caught me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRed Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 I had fights with my old apartment complex about it too. It was stated in my lease that I could store my grill outside my door. Never had a problem until shortly after I renewed my lease and I got the notice. I faught them on it for a while because I thought it was just a change to the lease policy. After about 6 months of this, they finally produced the state law change. I had no problem with it then, but they couldn't give me a reason why there was a change until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 at my place they allow only gas, and only on the bottom concrete patios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 I sublett'ed (sp?) this place from my brother when he bought his house. They wouldnt let him out of his lease so i took over. He cooked out every weekend during the summer for 2 years and no one ever said anything to him. i sent him a txt asking if he read the lease and if it said anything about not having a gas grill. Supposably there is a stipulation in the lease that says you cant have one but there was no such stipulation in anything i ever signed. Just because you did sign a agreement doesn't mean you can still do it. You are subletting which mean you still have to follow the rule the original renter agreed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Oh home ownership FTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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