smokin5s Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I killed it of course, but what can I do to get rid of them if there are any more... my main concern is we do park our quads, tractor, and 2 of our vehicles that we don't drive every day in the barn. Since the barn has a gravel floor it's obviously not airtight or anywhere close to it. so could I let us a few bug foggers in there to take care of the issue as well as spraying that bug shit around the base of the barn similar to what I spray around my basement once a season to keep the spiders out of the house? It was definately a black widow because it had the red hour glass on it's butt. I have young children and don't need them to get harmed as well as let's face it, I don't want bit by one of those fuckers either. so what's my best course of action to elimiate these fuckers from my barn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spam Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Burn it. Level it. Build a better barn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 If you see one, there WILL BE more around. Be extremely cautious, and seek action immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChris1632X Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I agree that you have to assume there are more. I would not hesitate to call a professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Just kill them as you see them. Better yet catch two if you can with a small shop vac and watch them fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/imgs/m1-flamethrower_3.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc1647545523 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I'd be surprised if any technique will guarantee that you won't have black widow spiders in a barn in Ohio. I found this on the Univ. of TN Agricultural Extension Service site and thought it might be helpful to you: Reducing black widow populations around structures involves two steps: 1. Changing the environment so it is less attractive to spiders. 2. Finding and destroying spiders. Use the following measures to control spiders around structures: • Eliminate spiders and discourage their return by routinely cleaning the house. Spiders, webs and egg sacs can be removed effectively with a vacuum cleaner, broom or duster such as a Webster. • Reduce clutter in closets, garages, basements, attics, crawl spaces and outbuildings to make these quiet, undisturbed areas less attractive to spiders. During this cleanup, it is helpful to wear protective clothing such as long sleeves, long pants, boot, gloves and a hat. A pest control technician was bitten when a spider ran under his glove and upon reaching a tight spot, stopped and bit the technician. A situation like this could possibly be avoided if gloves are taped to the sleeve and socks taped to the pants. • Use glue boards or sticky traps placed against edges near entry points into the structure (doors, windows, garage doors and crawlspace vents) to catch and detect spiders. • Inspect and clean outdoor shutters, placing an emphasis on the areas behind the shutters. CONTROL 10 Chemical Control: Since the vast majority of spiders and other arthropods are either harmless or beneficial, treat only if you have a black widow infestation. Apply insecticides to the habitats frequented by these spiders when you detect an infestation. Repeat the applications at intervals specified on the label as needed to eliminate the spider infestation. To further impede spider entry into the home, a barrier spray of insecticide can be applied around the base of the house and possible entry points such as door thresholds, garage and crawlspace entrances and foundation vents. Synthetic pyrethroids (bifenthrin, cypermethrin, cyfluthrin, deltamethrin, lambda-cyhalothrin,) can be applied and may need to be reapplied throughout the summer. Bayer Advanced Home Indoor and Outdoor Insect Killer (cyfluthrin) and Ortho Home Defense Perimeter and Indoor Insect Killer (bifenthrin) are available to the general public. Wettable powder or microencapsulated (“slow-release”) formulations are particularly effective. • Use yellow “bug” lights or sodium vapor lights to attract less insects and subsequently less spiders to the structure. • Spiders often congregate around the outdoor perimeter of a structure and tend to move indoors as winter approaches. Reduce migration indoors by moving firewood, building materials and debris away from the foundation. Trim or remove trees, vines or tee limbs from touching the side of the structure. • Black widows prefer closed, dark places such as water meter compartments and crawl spaces, so barriers constructed to inhibit entrance to these areas are of value. Seal possible entry points into the structure. Pipe penetrations through the foundation can be sealed with steel wool or copper mesh followed with an expandable foam. Caulking can also be used in these locations. Doors and windows can be sealed with weather stripping or door sweeps. Ensure window, crawlspace and vent screens are tight-fitting and without holes. See Extension PB1303, Managing Pests Around the Home, for more suggestions on pest-proofing the home. utextension.tennessee.edu/publications/Documents/PB1193.pdf The publication also suggested behaviors which help people avoid being bitten. It might be helpful to review those points with your family. This was also in the article: Black widow spiders are very numerous in nearly all parts of the U.S., but cases of reported bites are rare. For the most part, black widows live peacefully in close proximity to humans with little contact. Although both male and female black widow spiders are highly venomous, according to our knowledge, no reports of bites from the males have been recorded. I hope this was helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturg1647545502 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 see spider go on CR state obvious mate with spider ? profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourString Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I use a farm spray from Tractor Supply called CV80D. You can spray it on an insect and it immediately fucks up their central nervous system. If I remember correctly, it doesn't actually say it works on spiders but it does. I spray around the lower corners of my garage maybe once every two weeks or so. It seems to repel them for a good while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff1647545513 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 When the fuck did Ohio get black widows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TTQ B4U Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I use a farm spray from Tractor Supply called CV80D. You can spray it on an insect and it immediately fucks up their central nervous system. Sounds like nasty stuff. IMO for my own health I'd rather chanced a rare Black Widow bite vs living with something in the environment that fucks up the nervous system of anything. :no: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger1647545502 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 When the fuck did Ohio get black widows? Thread shifts to "Evolution vs. Creationism" in 3...2...1... If you have a cool and shady area, such as a barn, shed, or garage, you will have Black Widow Spiders in it. You just won't notice them because most of them are tiny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin5s Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Oh, I'm sure there's a lot more of them... that's what I'm concerned about... I don't want one to decide to live on one of the quads then crawl up someone's leg and bite them while they are riding... or decide that the truck or Pacifica would make them a nice home, and either build a nest and populate more of those fuckers inside the vehicle, or come bite someone when we actually do drive it. (the Pacifica I'm more worried about than the truck since it's typically just me in the truck, but the whole family piles into the Pacifica for vacations or whenever we need the additional seating.) so is this pretty common to have them in a barn? Honestly it freaked me the fuck out last night because it was sitting next to the latch that I open the garage door with so I could have easily put my hand on it and gotten bitten. I was planning on building shelves this weekend in the barn to help with the small pockets of clutter in the barn, but if I need to wear gloves and long sleve shirts and shit, I might wait until it cools down... Or just over fog the barn like a mad man, spray ortho all around the parimeter and then work on cleaning it all up afterwards. As far as our house, we have been spraying the ortho home defense stuff since it was built last fall and knock on wood, I haven't seen a single bug inside the house (except for those fucking bettles that fly in the door when you open it... hate those fuckers!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin5s Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Thread shifts to "Evolution vs. Creationism" in 3...2...1... If you have a cool and shady area, such as a barn, shed, or garage, you will have Black Widow Spiders in it. You just won't notice them because most of them are tiny... most are tiny? wtf? then how the hell did I end up with the big ones? Are they feeding on field mice or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Fuck spiders. For real. Burn down the barn. Collect on insurance. Build air tight barn. Move into said air tight barn. Rub one out in said new barn. Feel like a BAUCE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Your post has inspired me to go get some Terro products. Yesterday I tracked some carpenter ants living in the backyard where we have a lot of trees and what not. Sprayed and killed them but Terro has some pretty effective baits too. You've seen my centipede posts and while they eat spiders unless some is going to trap them live I'm taking them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ImUrOBGYN Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Black widow spiders are not nearly as commonplace as they are in other parts of the country. It southern California, I can guarantee you I can find one within 2minutes if you were to randomly ask me at anytime. People aren't dying off and nobody is losing all their children. They're a very shy insect. Worry about the recluses. Pretty much what Doc posted covers the rest of the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewhop Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Burn them with fire I fixed it for you. But seriously Terro producs are the awesomeness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChris1632X Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 or decide that the truck or Pacifica would make them a nice home, and either build a nest and populate more of those fuckers inside the vehicle, or come bite someone when we actually do drive it. (the Pacifica I'm more worried about than the truck since it's typically just me in the truck, but the whole family piles into the Pacifica for vacations or whenever we need the additional seating.) You shouldn't have any problems with this, I don't think even spiders would ever want to ride in a Pacifica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin5s Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 You shouldn't have any problems with this, I don't think even spiders would ever want to ride in a Pacifica. Pacifica is the best family vehicle that we've ever owned... the F-150 on the other hand, I'm sure Spiders even have limits what what they are willing to be seen in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin5s Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Your post has inspired me to go get some Terro products. Yesterday I tracked some carpenter ants living in the backyard where we have a lot of trees and what not. Sprayed and killed them but Terro has some pretty effective baits too. You've seen my centipede posts and while they eat spiders unless some is going to trap them live I'm taking them out. is Terro a spray or powder or fogger? Also, will it work in the barn if I close everything up? remember gravel floors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 is Terro a spray or powder or fogger? Also, will it work in the barn if I close everything up? remember gravel floors They have spray, but in your case, what I would do is both a spray around the outside and inside from the floor up to say the first 2ft of wall. With Terro, they also make a glue trap. Similar to a glue mouse trap. There's a video on their site. What I am planning on doing is putting the sticky traps along the wall under the wash basin in my basement and near the sump pump along the wall. You might want to place them near the corner areas inside the barn or on window sills. I'm not sure how BIG the barn is, thus I'm not sure an aerosol fogger would do much in there ? What I've used in our Attic to kill a huge hive of bees was this http://www.killsbugsdead.com/fop_fum.asp Worked great. I cculd see setting off a couple of these in a barn with a few fans going to get it all over. In my case, the attic was pretty big and I used two just in case the bees flew to the other side. I set one off on each end as I have access from my son's room where they were and then from the garage on the other side of our house. Even this version says only 875sq ft http://www.killsbugsdead.com/fogger/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Black widow spiders are not nearly as commonplace as they are in other parts of the country. It southern California, I can guarantee you I can find one within 2minutes if you were to randomly ask me at anytime. People aren't dying off and nobody is losing all their children. They're a very shy insect. Worry about the recluses. Pretty much what Doc posted covers the rest of the ground. This is da truf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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