Why protesting in the US is easy

[wagner]

In the US hippy kids bitch because they get pepper sprayed after being told to move.

 

In Egypt the cops don't play around

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/25/world/africa/egypt-eye-hunter/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

[SpaceGhost]

"You'll shoot your eye out kid."

[ImUrOBGYN]

In the US hippy kids bitch because they get pepper sprayed after being told to move.

 

In Egypt the cops don't play around

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/25/world/africa/egypt-eye-hunter/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

 

Actually, it's easy because it's our right.

[copperhead]

Wrong section, moved

[TTQ B4U]

In the US hippy kids bitch because they get pepper sprayed after being told to move.

 

In Egypt the cops don't play around

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/25/world/africa/egypt-eye-hunter/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

 

The "Eye Hunter" better be packing more than rubber bullets at all times as sooner or later, he's going to lose both his eyes at the hands of the crowd.

[blurtoyou]

Actually, it's easy because it's our right.

 

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[greg1647545532]

Think of your favorite thing. The think of the government you fear the most taking that thing away. Then thanks those hippies for protesting, and thank (most) cops for letting them do it.

[Spidey2721]

its "easy'' because countless Americans have died to make it so.

[unfunnyryan]

It's easy because we make it easy.

 

In England half a city gets lit on fire over a "football" game.

[Mowgli1647545497]

Anyone criticizing the protestors while holding down a "hard working job the old fashioned way", likely in a large corporation, is just stupid.

 

Your ignorance is part of the problem and you are getting a nice slow 50yr rape in the ass and don't even know it. But please, continue to go along being the unknowing lemming army of the CEOs.

 

Thank you protestors. (Who are doing it so I don't have to - because I'm feeding my kids... which is getting harder and harder to do every year.)

[wagner]

Anyone criticizing the protestors while holding down a "hard working job the old fashioned way", likely in a large corporation, is just stupid.

 

Your ignorance is part of the problem and you are getting a nice slow 50yr rape in the ass and don't even know it. But please, continue to go along being the unknowing lemming army of the CEOs.

 

Thank you protestors. (Who are doing it so I don't have to - because I'm feeding my kids... which is getting harder and harder to do every year.)

 

Step 1. Get off your high horse

Step 2. Shut the fuck up

 

I am laughing at the fact the media took a pepper spray issue and blew it up into something it was not. And how it was made a big deal they got sprayed. Guess I need to spell that out a little more for all the cause heads of this world.

 

Cable news media tells you what they want you to think and you all just eat it with a smile on your face.

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=88a_1322258639

 

Yes we have great rights in this country that people have died for, did I knock that at all? No, so don't even get on that my little pony ride and try to preach that at me.

 

If I actually cared what these protesters had to say I would look to see if they are really still doing something, olr folded like a card table now that they are no longer the media darling.

 

You want to do something about all these big bad compaines that are shitting on america you can:

 

1. Stop buying their products

2. Quit your job

3. Vote their puppets out of office

 

To me, 3 looks like the best option for my situation but I guess living in the real world and having real problems does that...

[wagner]

[Spidey2721]

to #3 ... and do what vote another waste into office. doesn't get you anywhere. none of em are worth a damn. don't get me wrong i not saying that you shouldn't vote. i just saying i am sick of the lot of em. all of em.

[wagner]

to #3 ... and do what vote another waste into office. doesn't get you anywhere. none of em are worth a damn. don't get me wrong i not saying that you shouldn't vote. i just saying i am sick of the lot of em. all of em.

 

Demand more of leaders? Not just vote for the turd your party or another provides? I don't agree with the current president, but I will not be voting for the GOP dumpster fire they are offering.

 

Ron Paul anyone?

 

These kids of the right idea, but their means of protest and lack of a goal and leaders kind of hurt the cause.

[Spidey2721]

really demand more of your leaders... right they couldnt care less what i think. i not padding their wallets.

[Mowgli1647545497]

Step 1. Get off your high horse

Step 2. Shut the fuck up

 

*unintelligible due to cock garggling*

 

You want to do something about all these big bad compaines that are shitting on america you can:

 

1. Stop buying their products

2. Quit your job

3. Vote their puppets out of office

1. Done

2. Done - Or rather, never needed. I was never a corporate shill or lemming. Penis present in pants. Instead I've started 3 of my own companies and sold 2.

3. I vote the best guy to runner-up or third-place every time. Not my fault the majority of the electorate is a bunch of inbred cross-eyed jackfucks.

 

I'm not a puppet of the media, I don't believe everything I read and I don't only read what I believe. And I sure as fuck don't watch ANY news channels.

 

I also don't ride a little pony. Or a high horse.

 

I ride a manly Clydesdale. Its a big black dick-smashing warhorse with homo-erotic overtones. And you like it.

 

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In other/good news, Walmart is now permitted by the Indian govt to open stores in India. Maybe next China. Now they can smash all their local economies apart there too. Suck it, indian farmer and mom-n-pop store owner...

 

Maybe now all we gotta do is get them to start buying GM shitty union-built cars.

[wagner]

1. Done

2. Done - Or rather, never needed. I was never a corporate shill or lemming. Penis present in pants. Instead I've started 3 of my own companies and sold 2.

3. I vote the best guy to runner-up or third-place every time. Not my fault the majority of the electorate is a bunch of inbred cross-eyed jackfucks.

 

I'm not a puppet of the media, I don't believe everything I read and I don't only read what I believe. And I sure as fuck don't watch ANY news channels.

 

I also don't ride a little pony. Or a high horse.

 

I ride a manly Clydesdale. Its a big black dick-smashing warhorse with homo-erotic overtones. And you like it.

 

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In other/good news, Walmart is now permitted by the Indian govt to open stores in India. Maybe next China. Now they can smash all their local economies apart there too. Suck it, indian farmer and mom-n-pop store owner...

 

Maybe now all we gotta do is get them to start buying GM shitty union-built cars.

 

Walmart already has stores in China, that have been fined many times for their ways.

[Trouble Maker]

Actually, it's easy because it's our right.

 

"Congress shall make no law ... prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech ... or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

 

These people were being such a menace!

 

http://static.selfdeprecate.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Occupy-UC-Davis-Pepper-Spray-Cop-650x358.jpg

 

And on a lighter note but still related.

 

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/political-pictures-uc-davis-pepper-spraying-cop-gets-the-meme-treatment.jpg

 

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2011/11/21/193796-uc-davis-pepper-spray-meme.jpg

[Trouble Maker]

I am laughing at the fact the media took a pepper spray issue and blew it up into something it was not. And how it was made a big deal they got sprayed.

 

It's a symptom to a problem. No one thinks that this incident itself is a huge deal, but what it represents is, the fact that the government is trying to systematically shut down this movement is.

[Scotty2Hotty]

When the anarchists of these groups start destroying public property or when they start infringing on other's Rights, then they should be subjected to the law. All this protesting sounds like a bunch of mindless bitching IMO. Washington D.C would've been where I would've started if I wanted to bring about policy changes. Bet if the protesters didn't have their Apple products, they'd all committ suicide.

[Mowgli1647545497]

... All this protesting sounds like a bunch of mindless bitching IMO. Washington D.C would've been where I would've started if I wanted to bring about policy changes. Bet if the protesters didn't have their Apple products, they'd all committ suicide.

 

Yeah because decentralized, online-enabled protesting didn't get anything accomplished in Egypt, or Libya, or Bahrain, or Syria, or....

 

Yep what they need to do is narrow down their complaints to one thing and then all congregate in ONE place, THAT'LL make the movement SO much more resilient and effective...

[cptn janks]

I am laughing at the fact the media took a pepper spray issue and blew it up into something it was not. And how it was made a big deal they got sprayed.

 

its already been ruled that pepper spraying non violent protesters is excessive.

 

http://archive.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/4AABD133965012F888256B3D0083536D/$file/9817250.pdf

 

the use of pepper spray on the protestors' eyes and faces was plainly in excess of the force necessary under the circumstances, and no reasonable officer could have concluded otherwise.

[SpaceGhost]

This explains why this shit is going on:

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/nov/25/shocking-truth-about-crackdown-occupy

 

Why this massive mobilisation against these not-yet-fully-articulated, unarmed, inchoate people? After all, protesters against the war in Iraq, Tea Party rallies and others have all proceeded without this coordinated crackdown. Is it really the camping? As I write, two hundred young people, with sleeping bags, suitcases and even folding chairs, are still camping out all night and day outside of NBC on public sidewalks – under the benevolent eye of an NYPD cop – awaiting Saturday Night Live tickets, so surely the camping is not the issue. I was still deeply puzzled as to why OWS, this hapless, hopeful band, would call out a violent federal response.

 

That is, until I found out what it was that OWS actually wanted.

 

The mainstream media was declaring continually "OWS has no message". Frustrated, I simply asked them. I began soliciting online "What is it you want?" answers from Occupy. In the first 15 minutes, I received 100 answers. These were truly eye-opening.

 

 

 

The No 1 agenda item: get the money out of politics. Most often cited was legislation to blunt the effect of the Citizens United ruling, which lets boundless sums enter the campaign process. No 2: reform the banking system to prevent fraud and manipulation, with the most frequent item being to restore the Glass-Steagall Act – the Depression-era law, done away with by President Clinton, that separates investment banks from commercial banks. This law would correct the conditions for the recent crisis, as investment banks could not take risks for profit that create kale derivatives out of thin air, and wipe out the commercial and savings banks.

 

No 3 was the most clarifying: draft laws against the little-known loophole that currently allows members of Congress to pass legislation affecting Delaware-based corporations in which they themselves are investors.

 

When I saw this list – and especially the last agenda item – the scales fell from my eyes. Of course, these unarmed people would be having the shit kicked out of them.

 

For the terrible insight to take away from news that the Department of Homeland Security coordinated a violent crackdown is that the DHS does not freelance. The DHS cannot say, on its own initiative, "we are going after these scruffy hippies". Rather, DHS is answerable up a chain of command: first, to New York Representative Peter King, head of the House homeland security subcommittee, who naturally is influenced by his fellow congressmen and women's wishes and interests. And the DHS answers directly, above King, to the president (who was conveniently in Australia at the time).

 

In other words, for the DHS to be on a call with mayors, the logic of its chain of command and accountability implies that congressional overseers, with the blessing of the White House, told the DHS to authorise mayors to order their police forces – pumped up with millions of dollars of hardware and training from the DHS – to make war on peaceful citizens.

 

But wait: why on earth would Congress advise violent militarised reactions against its own peaceful constituents? The answer is straightforward: in recent years, members of Congress have started entering the system as members of the middle class (or upper middle class) – but they are leaving DC privy to vast personal wealth, as we see from the "scandal" of presidential contender Newt Gingrich's having been paid $1.8m for a few hours' "consulting" to special interests. The inflated fees to lawmakers who turn lobbyists are common knowledge, but the notion that congressmen and women are legislating their own companies' profitsis less widely known – and if the books were to be opened, they would surely reveal corruption on a Wall Street spectrum. Indeed, we do already know that congresspeople are massively profiting from trading on non-public information they have on companies about which they are legislating – a form of insider trading that sent Martha Stewart to jail.

 

Since Occupy is heavily surveilled and infiltrated, it is likely that the DHS and police informers are aware, before Occupy itself is, what its emerging agenda is going to look like. If legislating away lobbyists' privileges to earn boundless fees once they are close to the legislative process, reforming the banks so they can't suck money out of fake derivatives products, and, most critically, opening the books on a system that allowed members of Congress to profit personally – and immensely – from their own legislation, are two beats away from the grasp of an electorally organised Occupy movement … well, you will call out the troops on stopping that advance.

 

So, when you connect the dots, properly understood, what happened this week is the first battle in a civil war; a civil war in which, for now, only one side is choosing violence. It is a battle in which members of Congress, with the collusion of the American president, sent violent, organised suppression against the people they are supposed to represent. Occupy has touched the third rail: personal congressional profits streams. Even though they are, as yet, unaware of what the implications of their movement are, those threatened by the stirrings of their dreams of reform are not.

 

 

Don't let this be too long to read.

[accel_is_my_drug]

THe kids who got pepper sprayed at the University were protesting their student loans. Student loans with willingly entered a known agreement on. Spoiled little brats deserved to get hosed down. Next time a cop says move. Get the fuck out of the way.

 

Stupid fucking Socialists...

 

(Only half trolling)

[87GT]

Pepper spraying an individual who is acting non-violent is an abuse of power. What ever happened to picking people up and moving them? All the law enforcement in the united states but no one wants to literally "throw someone over their shoulder"? If they become violent after this then go ahead and mace them. Otherwise let them bitch. People moan and complain that is life and in this country it is a fucking right. Don't infringe on another American's rights.