ShowHBK Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 It has been confirmed that tonight at 7:30 PM EST Mazda will unveil their new rotary powered sports car. here is the link to the live stream for anyone interested. IB4 "torque" jokes http://roa.h-cdn.co/assets/15/40/980x490/landscape-1443620865-msc01.jpg http://liveimages.motoring.com.au/motoring/general/editorial/ge5147201386244368711.jpg?aspect=centered&height=290&width=440 http://liveimages.motoring.com.au/motoring/general/editorial/ge5328323034088782871.jpg?aspect=centered&height=290&width=440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Front looks like an Aston Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Will it see production? (probably not) If it did would it be earlier than 2020? (probably not) If it did would they fuck it up royally? (absolutely) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Future $5k cars if they aren't turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Zoom Boom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I still really like Mazda as a company. I've been glad that they've enjoyed good success with their Sky Active engineering and recent model lineup. That being said...it's still not confirmed that this is even a rotary yet right? And unless they've come up with some sweet magic (that I hope they have) they won't be able to make a rotary meet emissions and make the power to compete in today's environment. Even if it's a concept that never gets produced I'm still excited to see them at least trying things like this again. If it's a sweet little turbo 4-cyl coupe I'll be happy about that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowHBK Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I still really like Mazda as a company. I've been glad that they've enjoyed good success with their Sky Active engineering and recent model lineup. That being said...it's still not confirmed that this is even a rotary yet right? And unless they've come up with some sweet magic (that I hope they have) they won't be able to make a rotary meet emissions and make the power to compete in today's environment. Even if it's a concept that never gets produced I'm still excited to see them at least trying things like this again. If it's a sweet little turbo 4-cyl coupe I'll be happy about that too. According to the news I have been reading this will for sure be a rotary powered car. That being said, it would be powered by the x16 engine which is a larger 13b MSP based rotary. We have no solid information so I guess anything is speculation at this point. They could just pull a Volkswagen and "pass" emissions trollface.jpeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Welp. Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowHBK Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Skyactive Rotary confirmed! The concept is called RX-Vision I don't speak Japanese so I have no clue as to what they are saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowHBK Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mazda RX-VISION major specifications Seating capacity 2 persons Overall length x width x height 4,389mm x 1,925mm x 1,160mm Wheelbase 2,700mm Engine SKYACTIV-R Powertrain Front engine, rear-wheel drive Tires Front: 245/40R20 / Rear: 285/35R20 Rim width Front: 9.5J / Rear: 11J http://www.mazdausamedia.com/image/03_RX-VISION_H+reg.jpg http://www.mazdausamedia.com/image/01_RX-VISION_H+reg.jpg http://www.mazdausamedia.com/image/02_RX-VISION_H+reg.jpg http://www.mazdausamedia.com/image/05_RX-VISION_H+reg.jpg http://www.mazdausamedia.com/image/07_RX-VISION_H+reg.jpg http://www.mazdausamedia.com/image/13_RX-VISION_H+reg.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Well, the interior looks good, kind of meh on the exterior. The good new is it looks like a GM small block should be able to fit under the hood without too much of an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Shape is like a 2015 Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOxley Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 It'll be a toyobaru competitor is my guess. Those concept drawings are cool, but my guess is it'll look like a hatchback Miata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbs3000 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 It'll never hit production like the concept obviously but man that concept looks amazing. Those sides look sweet and completely unique to anything that currently exists. Sign me up for one when I hit my mid life crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Having been through Mazda Certified training a couple years ago, they were talking about bringing back a rotary then. I'm sure they'll be bringing something like this out. Mazda loves the rotary and even with the rotary's issues Mazda didn't loose money replacing engines under warranty. I'm sure whatever shows up will be a neat car, but I doubt it'll be for very many people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Cool to see it a rotary and I'd love to hear more about it, but in my mind that makes it harder to deliver to market. Not huge on the headlights but the rest of the car looks great to me. Still a good step for Mazda even if nothing else comes of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Looks like a gaming mouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Borgen Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Awesome Here's a RX3 that sounds tits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacfreak142 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Looks neat, but unless mazda found a way to seriously improve the rotary in such a short time, itll probably make 260-270 hp, crap for torque and get like 17 mpg on the highway. Ill pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) Looks neat, but unless mazda found a way to seriously improve the rotary in such a short time, itll probably make 260-270 hp, crap for torque and get like 17 mpg on the highway. Ill pass What's a short time? What improvements were needed that you are referring to? The 26B, 3 rotor, motor would be an amazing option to see in this car, even if it were NA. If they did an NA and a turbo option, the Mazda fans would be very happy. People hung up on Apex seals as a weak point, are completely out of touch with that being a non issue for over a decade. The rotary motor most likely will always have a low mpg, because the build design uses excessive fuel use to assist in cooling. And, with modification for more output from the motor, comes more fuel demand and use = low MPG. 90% of the issues with rotary cars can be traced back to the owners for lack of maintenance, and not knowing what to do for care. Edited October 28, 2015 by Mojoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 What's a short time? What improvements were needed that you are referring to? The 26B, 3 rotor, motor would be an amazing option to see in this car, even if it were NA. If they did an NA and a turbo option, the Mazda fans would be very happy. People hung up on Apex seals as a weak point, are completely out of touch with that being a non issue for over a decade. The rotory motor most likely will always have a low mpg, because the build design uses excessive fuel use to assist in cooling. And, with modification for more output from the motor, comes more fuel demand and use = low MPG. 90% of the issues with rotory cars can be traced back to the owners for lack of maintenance, and not knowing what to do for care. I have to totally agree, a rotary is a commitment if you want to own one. It'll never be a great daily but a great track car if driven correctly. Like I said earlier it's never going to be a car for the masses, and is one reason I've always liked Mazda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) I dislike the rotary for a daily. For a fun car though, I love the WHAT THE FUCK factor of a light mid 400hp, from a rotary. Edited October 28, 2015 by Mojoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 A well built rotary makes some serious power and one of my favorite sounding cars at the track. Downside, I see those same engines being rebuilt almost every pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowHBK Posted October 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Looks neat, but unless mazda found a way to seriously improve the rotary in such a short time, itll probably make 260-270 hp, crap for torque and get like 17 mpg on the highway. Ill pass The next engine was known to already exist back in 2007 but the page on Mazda's site for it is long gone. It was known in development as the 16x engine, but most of the community called it the 16c (to come after the 13b). The only solid information on the engine was that (at the time of development) it had up to 300 hp, a lengthened stroke, reduced width rotor housing, direct injection, and aluminum side housings. The two rotor engine was set to be a 1600cc engine giving each rotor 800cc which would have been been larger then the RX-8 and RX-7 engines. What does this all mean? The new engine for this car (SKYACTIVE-R Engine) will most likely be the 16x or 16c with Skyactive-R. If I had to guess, this thing will make 300HP and a bit more torque then any other RX before it. Everything is speculation at this point, but if Mazda is smart they will turbo this thing form the factory to give it 350hp. I honestly think that Mazda is making great progress with the engine and I am excited to see what comes out of this concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacfreak142 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 What's a short time? What improvements were needed that you are referring to? The 26B, 3 rotor, motor would be an amazing option to see in this car, even if it were NA. If they did an NA and a turbo option, the Mazda fans would be very happy. People hung up on Apex seals as a weak point, are completely out of touch with that being a non issue for over a decade. The rotary motor most likely will always have a low mpg, because the build design uses excessive fuel use to assist in cooling. And, with modification for more output from the motor, comes more fuel demand and use = low MPG. 90% of the issues with rotary cars can be traced back to the owners for lack of maintenance, and not knowing what to do for care. If your looking at it from that way, then sure, it probably will make for a great track car. Im meaning more in the sense of an every day use/occasional track use type thing. Every review i read about the rx8 was that it needed to be kept in high rpm to really do anything due to the lack of torque. Also looked at the window sticker of one of the last year ones and it was rated at like 13 city 17 highway mpg. To me, thats not really competitive with much of anything in the market, although i do realize different people have different tastes. Now a turbo car would be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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