zeitgeist57 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a10297809/clash-of-clans-2017-type-r-vs-2018-370z-vs-2018-sti/ ...and the FWD Civic wins?!? I gotta drive this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 FWD is no joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1647545492 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Makes the fugly more tolerable to know it can go a round a track,but isnt the competition a bit old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Damn it even owned in the "cargo space"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Makes the fugly more tolerable to know it can go a round a track,but isnt the competition a bit old? 2018 370 & Subaru's tested vs. 2017 Type R. So the opposite... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 2018 370 & Subaru's tested vs. 2017 Type R. So the opposite... Not in model year but in advancements and technology/design. Both have gotten long in the tooth and complacent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 2018 370 & Subaru's tested vs. 2017 Type R. So the opposite... I think he meant the virtually unchanged 10+ year old EJ257 and 5+ year old 370Z architecture compared to a brand new car design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grudes Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Im surprised the Golf-R and Focus RS weren't in the competition. I dont think the Type-R would have won out over those 2 which makes the results kind of skewed like they were trying to make it favorable for the Type R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowHBK Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Might have won the fight, but the war was long lost. The markup on these things is UNREAL! You could do so much better in the "price per dollar" department. *sigh* that's supply and demand for ya... People will charge it, if we are willing to pay it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 *sigh* that's supply and demand for ya... People will charge it, if we are willing to pay it. tell that to all the focus RS's that are sitting on dealer lots because the "market adjustment" kept people away in droves: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/07/barks-bites-focus-rs-dead-dealers-blame/ I think people are really getting tired of the Dealer "market adjustment" scam, and in a downward trending economy like we are seeing in the automotive industry/hobby markup is going to be a hard thing to justify. Probably won't stop them though. reading through that article I am both impressed and a little leery at the amount of technology honda had to throw into this car to make it surpass an AWD or RWD performance platform. A steering knuckle that adjusts to torque steer? feels both innovative and complicated. also can someone explain to me why the 370Z is in this hunt? Do people really cross shop an STI, a type R and a Z car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Thought the R was AWD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Thought the R was AWD? seriously? Do you even car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted July 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Im surprised the Golf-R and Focus RS weren't in the competition. I dont think the Type-R would have won out over those 2 which makes the results kind of skewed like they were trying to make it favorable for the Type R. I think they were conveniently trying to make it a JAPANESE "tuner-car" competititon...so yes, the R and RS were excluded. Clever marketing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPFSTheFett Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Dealer markups just kill me. Honda wanted 5k over on the type r's they have coming in, I told them they should be happy they told me that after I picked out my daughters car. Coughlin Marysville told me 20k over on a Demon. This after they undercharged me for my wife's Hellcat by mistake and I told them I'd pay it, didn't want to get one over on them. Then these places wonder why nobody has any loyalty to their dealerships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowHBK Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Then these places wonder why nobody has any loyalty to their dealerships. Actually... the shit sells at markup price. Loyalty means nothing when rich folks pay over sticker price for something they want. So long as people buy, they will sell at the markup price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOxley Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 There's a post on FB about a guy with a black and red Type R trying to sell the red one for a mark-up of a mark-up Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Fwd lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeesammy Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Fwd lol Coming from a dude who praised a gti for ages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Thought the R was AWD? do you even internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Coming from a dude who praised a gti for ages When your car hasn't run in 5 years, I suppose it's only natural to cling to old shit. Life is passing you by... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 There's a post on FB about a guy with a black and red Type R trying to sell the red one for a mark-up of a mark-up Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That guy was at Mid-Ohio this weekend. $39500obo in the window. No idea what original MSRP on that one was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Coughlin Marysville told me 20k over on a Demon. And if they did, your car would be one of the last ones to be delivered. Dodge has stated anyone that charges above MSRP will get their orders last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 do you even internet Here is where I got that info from. I stopped reading about it a while ago, tastes have changed. http://jalopnik.com/honda-may-go-awd-with-the-civic-type-r-report-1796204905 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 And if they did, your car would be one of the last ones to be delivered. Dodge has stated anyone that charges above MSRP will get their orders last. They are getting around that now too but getting them in and sending them to auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1647545492 Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Was at Roush Honda getting a recall done and wandered over to the one in the showroom,I asked how much is the dealer adjustment? .....there is none just,msrp. Maybe Ill get over it but it hurt my eyes looking at it in red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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