Likwid Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I posted this on the Ohio CCW forums but I'm interested in opinions over here on this....Well, I went and picked up my CCW today, I'll post that elsewhere but I wanted to ask the Deputy who deals with CCW every day a specific question to hear her answer."Just to confirm, being licensed for Concealed does not remove my right to Open Carry right?"Her answer... "There is a law in Ohio for Open Carry but most city ordnance prohibit Open Carry so no, you shouldn't Open Carry."Let's ignore her "you shouldn't open carry" because opinions don't matter, her statement that city ordnance over ORC 9.68 bothers me.(A) The individual right to keep and bear arms, being a fundamental individual right that predates the United States Constitution and Ohio Constitution, and being a constitutionally protected right in every part of Ohio, the general assembly finds the need to provide uniform laws throughout the state regulating the ownership, possession, purchase, other acquisition, transport, storage, carrying, sale, or other transfer of firearms, their components, and their ammunition. Except as specifically provided by the United States Constitution, Ohio Constitution, state law, or federal law, a person, without further license, permission, restriction, delay, or process, may own, possess, purchase, sell, transfer, transport, store, or keep any firearm, part of a firearm, its components, and its ammunition.Comments? I thought the ORC was pretty clear about Open Carry, and obviously there is a lot of confusion, am I wrong? Do cities have the right to override Open Carry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatik3 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 The biggest thing that causes the problem is if you want to walk down the street with a pistol on your hip it's legal. Until local P.D. starts getting calls. Then it's inducing panic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Simple answer is no city can exclude you from open carry in the state of Ohio but you knew that already right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I think they use the "inducing panic" law when you open carryedit: lunatik beat me too it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 They can use "inducing panic" all they want but it wouldn't stick. Why would you want to open carry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curby Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 so i can wear my cowboy boots and 10 gallon hat and say i'm with the Texas Rangers and i know Chuck Norris personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 You can't induce panic doing something legal. If I were big, bad, ugly, black, wearing a bandana with my pants hanging down to my knees walking down the street in some uppity white neighborhood and someone called the police on me, I might be inducing panic to that person but what I'm doing is legal so I can't be charged with anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrish Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 They can use "inducing panic" all they want but it wouldn't stick. Why would you want to open carry?+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatik3 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 They can use "inducing panic" all they want but it wouldn't stick. Why would you want to open carry?So's I can be gangsta yo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrish Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 You can't induce panic doing something legal. If I were big, bad, ugly, black, wearing a bandana with my pants hanging down to my knees walking down the street in some uppity white neighborhood and someone called the police on me, I might be inducing panic to that person but what I'm doing is legal so I can't be charged with anything.With the way things are going this could happen to some level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curby Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 make sure you have one of these to open carry... or you'll definately get arrested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 So's I can be gangsta yo! Seriously, if you have a CCW permit why would you want to open carry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curby Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 right, why bother getting a license to carry concealed if your going to open carry? you can open carry without a license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeDredd Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 make sure you have one of these to open carry... or you'll definately get arrested. These are bullshit.. and would seriously piss me off if I saw one on someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatik3 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Seriously, if you have a CCW permit why would you want to open carry?It was a joke but anyway. There's not many reasons to open carry, I've done it on late night bank runs to make deposits where I have had to exit vehicle and walk up to deposit drop. As well as, I have openly carried in my apt complex. thats about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 It was a joke but anyway. There's not many reasons to open carry, I've done it on late night bank runs to make deposits where I have had to exit vehicle and walk up to deposit drop. As well as, I have openly carried in my apt complex. thats about itI knew the pix were a joke buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curby Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 These are bullshit.. and would seriously piss me off if I saw one on someone.shhhhh, go with it man... geeesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatik3 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 They're about as useful as... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 If you want to know what the laws are concerning firearms the last person you want to ask is a police officer. Sorry' date=' but it's the way it goes. Contact an attorney that specializes in such cases. No city, locality or anything else in this state, besides private property or Federal property, can keep you from open carrying a firearm. To answer Sam's question "...because I want to."[/quote']and "...because I want to." would be my answer as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 They can use "inducing panic" all they want but it wouldn't stick. Why would you want to open carry?The panic was covered in a diff thread, but yah.The reason for "wanting" to open carry are several.If there was an Open Carry walk I may want to go, just becauseJust because I can, as others saidMOST IMPORTANTLY, if I'm walking somewhere concealed and a gust of wind exposes the firearm, or I pick something up, like a penny, and my shirt comes untucked. I want to make sure I'm covered legally.make sure you have one of these to open carry... or you'll definately get arrested. They had a note about that in the sheriff's office saying NOT to buy these... people having a badge is a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 If you want to know what the laws are concerning firearms the last person you want to ask is a police officer.tru dat. cops often dont know their ass from a hole in the ground, let alone the intricacies of the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 tru dat. cops often dont know their ass from a hole in the ground, let alone the intricacies of the law.You know, I've said this before, I agree all the way. BUT I thought the cop that HANDLES CCW all day would have it right.OFCC coordinator for Open Carry is researching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusaHauty Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 My friend's son is in DEEP DOO-DOO for having a gun on school property.....had a 38 in his waistband and "instilled panic" in a neighbor across the street who saw "teens with guns" at the elementary school basketball court. When the cops showed up, DO NOT PAST GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200 the sentence is way more severe for having a gun on school property.....he's 17 so he should have known better....dumbass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 You know, I've said this before, I agree all the way. BUT I thought the cop that HANDLES CCW all day would have it right.yeah, you'd think that. but you'd be wrong lol. the cops job is to collect evidence for the prosecutor, and thats about it. once it hits the prosecutors desk, they will decide whether or not you commited a crime, and if there is enough evidence to support that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatik3 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) My friend's son is in DEEP DOO-DOO for having a gun on school property.....had a 38 in his waistband and "instilled panic" in a neighbor across the street who saw "teens with guns" at the elementary school basketball court. When the cops showed up, DO NOT PAST GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200 the sentence is way more severe for having a gun on school property.....he's 17 so he should have known better....dumbass.Well way to go kid!1. 17yo w/handgun2. On school property3. In waistband, the quick and easy circumcisionSMOOTH!Wait till something catches and you blow wee willy to kingdom come.and F.Y.I. 17 YEAR OLDS DO NOT KNOW BETTER. THEY'RE 17 Edited August 19, 2009 by Lunatik3 addition re:17yo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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