kawi kid Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 I kinda like this newb , he has spunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 newbgonnagetskullfucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggO Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Wow this thread just got interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant8605 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 newbgonnagetskullfuckedWell that's not very nice. Hope you're not being serious. Otherwise, you'd almost come off as a bit of a fucktard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Lolz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 (edited) Well that's not very nice. Hope you're not being serious. Otherwise, you'd almost come off as a bit of a fucktard.Tbutera is a fuktard but we luvz him. Oh and Tyler, thanks for sending me that tranny porn on facebook. You da Sheman! Edited September 17, 2010 by jagr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 After reviewing the posts in this thread, and a lot of other posts by "that dude" (gotta love that find-all-posts-by...... function), I've come to the conclusion (as a critically thinking, non-troglodyte) that of all the fucktard idiots in all the fucktard threads, of all the fucktard forums, you take the cake my friend. Your head is is irreversibly shoved up your ass. I can now only hope that your influence is limited, and you don't find too many cohorts (looks like you've only come across a few in here, wonder why?), and that you reproduce as little as possible. WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THE BARE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH BY LAW? WHAT ABOUT A LITTLE COMMON DECENCY AND RESPECT FOR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS!? You are truly classless. Whatcha got for me? Let's hear it (proper English please, and words more than one syllable are a plus). GrantSo...thats a 3rd degree Fucktard? Hard to argue with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 I sold a gun years ago that turned up in a school in the hands of a young kid. I know this because a lawyer came to my door asking questions about it. I used common sense and took down the guys info, driver's license #, and had him sign a bill of sale. I showed it to the lawyer and that was the last I ever heard of it.I did nothing wrong, but I would have had to explain that in court if I didn't use a little common sense.YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 woopwoopi actually got called a fucktard this morning in a text message....you guys are poisiong the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant8605 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Alright.. I think I've got it' date=' but how does one go about "clearing" someone to buy a firearm in the first place? I mean, I can ask all I want to, I can make the person sign, make his parents sign, and have the document notarized... and it still proves nothing. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I can't diagnose someone as bi-polar just by looking at their signature. Aside from selling through an FFL dealer, I don't see how you can make that kind of distinction on your own. While we're discussing ethics, who decides the qualifying characteristics that would allow gun ownership? Are you telling me that someone with bi-polar shouldn't be allowed the right to self-defense?[/quote']OK, we'll keep going on this................First- I at no point in time said or implied that the onus is on you as a person selling a firearm, to "clear" anyone. That would be impossible. What I'm trying to say is that you need "to do what you can" (that's a quote from my previous post). I think there is somewhere in between "you're 21, here's a gun" and full on background check, fingerprints, anal probe. The seller needs to exhibit "prudence and common sense" (another self-quote). Do you think that "that dude" is doing background checks and coming up empty handed, so he's selling the gun anyway? Or do you think he's doing as he says he does, and selling guns to anyone with I.D.? You're refuting an argument that isn't being made. Second- I can't diagnose a person as mentally ill by their signature either. I don't think anyone can. I don't really remember saying that anyone could (if you can quote me, I'll answer for it). Again, kinda refuting an argument that isn't being made. Third- Ethics, qualifying characteristics for gun ownership, etc.......Does a mentally-ill person have a right to self defense? ABSOLUTELY!!!!Does that mean they need a gun? Maybe yes, maybe no. Depends on the person. (not that an FFL dealer would be able to tell whether a person is mentally-ill or not, anyway).Does a blind person have a right to transportation? Does that mean we give 'em a driver's license?At the end of the day, and I pretty sure I've been very clear on this, you need to do what you can. Nobody's psychic. Nobody can diagnose mental illness from writing. Nobody can protect us from the fucked-up world we live in. Can we try? YUP. It's about doing what you CAN, not what you HAVE TO. "that dude" claims to sell guns to anyone with proof of age. That's just irresponsible....................................Unless there is anything wildly outlandish that needs to be answered, I'm done with this. I joined this forum to talk about trackdays, not sling shit. I just can't help but put my voice out there when someone is DRASTICALLY wrong about something as potentially harmful as guns (I know, people kill people, guns don't kill people. That's why I've got my arsenal) Please don't interpret that as me "running away". Hope it's been entertaining................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 hey grant...wanna meet up for ice cream after the game bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 but in all seriousness... grant...explain how you would go about selling a firearm? im curious what more you would do other than check their ID? what more can you do? the only thing left would be a background check, which you just said you would not go that far...so lets assume i want to buy a gun from you.....how would that process work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlock Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 LOL...Wow, this was a fun read...LOL...:popcorn: the fun continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant8605 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 but in all seriousness... grant...explain how you would go about selling a firearm? im curious what more you would do other than check their ID? what more can you do? the only thing left would be a background check, which you just said you would not go that far...so lets assume i want to buy a gun from you.....how would that process work?OK............... (sigh)To answer your question frankly, I wouldn't sell a gun to a stranger. The process would be non-existent.I have traded guns for a bike (to a stranger) on one occasion. That was after riding with him, and getting to know him, and his family, after hanging out with them multiple times. Didn't seem like a fucktard (I'd don't know that for a fact though, but I was satisfied enough).THE POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT SELLING GUNS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU JUST GO ABOUT HAPHAZARDLY. "that dude" 's posts pretty much say, in so many words, "sell a gun to a felon, all you have to do is make sure they're over 21". That's dumb. Really dumb. I'm gonna repeat myself one more time (I'm starting to feel like a broken record) DO WHAT YOU CAN. If Johnny crackhead wants to buy a gun from you, maybe you should think twice about that. If you don't know Johnny well enough to know whether he's a crackhead or not, you might want to reconsider selling him a lethal weapon. Is that really hard to understand? It's not an I.D. check, it's a common sense check. If you're hellbent on selling guns to strangers, I don't know what to tell you. The original post says, and I've centered on this theme, is that "that dude" is a fucktard for making it a point to sell guns to anyone and everyone over 21. A gun is not an xbox 360, to be sold to anyone with enough money to buy them. Lemme ask you a question.....You're selling a gun. The guy shows up to your house. He shows you I.D., he's over 21. You ask him if he's a convicted felon. He answers no. He then starts to talk about how his 14 year old brother has (coincidentally) always wanted one of the guns that you're selling. You're selling it to him right? That's the only thing that makes sense, right? You wouldn't want to step on his rights guaranteed by the constitution, right? The selling a gun to a stranger question is one with an unclear answer, with a lot of gray area. Doesn't it make sense to err on the side of caution?If you don't understand where I'm coming from tbutera2112, sorry. If you think I'm the world's biggest doo doo head, sorry dude. But FWIW, based on the question you posed that made me think a little, I don't think you're a fucktard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 In before the transportation is a privilege not a right debate! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant8605 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 How do I go "out of my way" to make sure you're not a felon? Exactly how is That Dude being irresponsible while carrying out a legal transaction in a manner that is outlined in the ORC? He's doing what he's supposed to do. "Do you live in Ohio?""Are you at least 21?""Are you a felon' date=' or do you plan on becoming one?"End of story. Due diligence has been performed. Nobody has the right to transportation.. blind or not.[/quote']Have you not absorbed a single thing I've written? You've obviously read it, you've replied. It's not about due diligence. It's not about the bare minimum. You obviously just..... don't..... get it. I'm not responding to you anymore. Welcome to the ranks of fucktards. Have fun with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Due diligence ....... I always ride ten mph under the speed limit just to make extra sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlock Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) You obviously just..... don't..... get it. I'm not responding to you anymore. Welcome to the ranks of fucktards. Have fun with that.A newb with 15 posts and a Harley comes off like that and is the best you got?????? I should neg you for that Pauly you've let me down. I made sure I swallowed my drink before I read your reply because I was sure it would end up spit all over my screen again. And is all I got Grant, you're not gonna like it here. jussayin. Edited September 18, 2010 by MidgetTodd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Why argue? Because your arguments always amuse me, and in the end really it's all about me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Kind of like a family size bag of Baked Lay's. Looks impressive until you open the bag. Then you know it's just full of air and bullshit. Oh and Imma steal that one for future use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 I never liked lays anyway lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlock Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 I never liked lays anyway lolI love lays...its tater chips I have an issue with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 So, you just admitted to knowingly selling firearms to people who can't legally buy them. Awesome.who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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