oldschoolsdime92 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-virtual-rally/62346-amazing-do-loud-pipes-saves-lives-oakland-police-dept-ca.htmlWhats your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie.harris Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Interesting, now what will they say about sport bikes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSVDon Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 There's a difference between "loud" and obnoxious. As long as you don't cross the line, I'm cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted October 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 i agree with don, I also pulled this from the triumph forum, and made me chuckle a bitI was at an outdoor cafe this afternoon where bikes typically parked backed- in to the curb. There are tables along the front windows of the restaurant, about eight feet from the curb. As I was backing in, two Gay Pirates on their Hardly Abelsons were preparing for departure- snugging up fingerless gloves, straightening the tassles on their grips and checking for purposeful grimaces in their mirrors. When they started their mighty V-twins, the look on the diner's faces was amazing- the sound level was almost painful, and immediately increased as these two clowns revved the bikes, dogs freaking out, a kid crying, just awful. Of course no one could hear the Sprint (stock system) over the racket. Later when I was suiting up to leave, a woman asked if I would mind moving away from the curb before I started my bike. I was happy to do so since these folks were so alienated by the HD boys. When I rolled away so I was parallel to the building and started up, she came over and thanked me, and asked "why were those others so loud? I had no response to offer..denoose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Ignorant officers complained and wasted tax payer money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted October 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Ignorant officers complained and wasted tax payer money.I am not so sure i agree with that. I recently put my stock exhaust back on my bike( ive never ridden it with stock exhaust) and I definitly had more people pull out in front of me than ever. I don't know if it was a coincidence or if the exhaust really made a difference, but it had me questioning to the point i switched back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I am not so sure i agree with that. I recently put my stock exhaust back on my bike( ive never ridden it with stock exhaust) and I definitly had more people pull out in front of me than ever. I don't know if it was a coincidence or if the exhaust really made a difference, but it had me questioning to the point i switched back.It might be coincidence, it is definitely anecdotal and I'm will to bet it is more likely mental. It didn't happen more often it was just in your head. Like when people buy a new vehicle and all of a sudden they see a ton of the vehicle they "never saw so many of before".It's in your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 (edited) Ok, attempting to find the original "Oakland Chronicle" article. Which will be difficult since it seems that the Oakland Chronicle is a Michigan newspaper. The Oakland area has the San Francisco Chronicle. Oakland itself has the Oakland Tribune. Oakland California does not have a newspaper named Oakland Chronicle.edit: article must have come from the San Francisco Chronicle, the "Kate Wade" person appears to be an employee of the San Francisco Chronicle. Still looking...edit2: Found it, here's the original article, it looks the same. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/09/BAJB114OUT.DTL Edited October 3, 2010 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg2112 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 It was in the San Francisco Chronicle (The article doesn't say anything about an "Oakland Chronicle," just that the photo was a "Chronicle photo.")http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-06-09/bay-area/17163709_1_mufflers-motorcycle-industry-council-motorcycle-cops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyco1 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Is OSHA going to make them wear earplugs, since it's over the 90db limit for on the job noise levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Using tax payer money to break the laws that they would write tickets for, to do something that is very questionable in it's effects. Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Dunno what to say, I could talk about this for hours...Yeah, I'm speechless... (or just confused) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted October 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 ^ i agree with recon, im confused. I am going back to the garage now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 wasnt there just a thread made about them cracking down on bike noises in california - and now they go do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 wasnt there just a thread made about them cracking down on bike noises in california - and now they go do this?The article is from 2008. So it predates the noise laws recently passed. I tried to find more recent info, but nothing found. I suppose they will stay stock when buying new motorcycles in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 The article is from 2008. So it predates the noise laws recently passed. I tried to find more recent info, but nothing found. I suppose they will stay stock when buying new motorcycles in the future.ahh didnt see article date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Doesn't light traveler quicker than sound? Therefore couldn't you argue that you can see something before you hear it? And with that logic, loud pipes don't save lives. They just annoy those around you./thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreator Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 i agree with don, I also pulled this from the triumph forum, and made me chuckle a bitI was at an outdoor cafe this afternoon where bikes typically parked backed- in to the curb. There are tables along the front windows of the restaurant, about eight feet from the curb. As I was backing in, two Gay Pirates on their Hardly Abelsons were preparing for departure- snugging up fingerless gloves, straightening the tassles on their grips and checking for purposeful grimaces in their mirrors. When they started their mighty V-twins, the look on the diner's faces was amazing- the sound level was almost painful, and immediately increased as these two clowns revved the bikes, dogs freaking out, a kid crying, just awful. Of course no one could hear the Sprint (stock system) over the racket. Later when I was suiting up to leave, a woman asked if I would mind moving away from the curb before I started my bike. I was happy to do so since these folks were so alienated by the HD boys. When I rolled away so I was parallel to the building and started up, she came over and thanked me, and asked "why were those others so loud? I had no response to offer..denooseLMAO.. Could you be a little more dramatic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenTwelve Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Doesn't light traveler quicker than sound? Therefore couldn't you argue that you can see something before you hear it? And with that logic, loud pipes don't save lives. They just annoy those around you./threadWell to argue that... Light is directional and would require the receptors to be oriented towards the incoming light source whereas (most) sound is non-directional and does not require it's receptors to be aimed at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 loud bikes, loud cars as long as it sounds good im all for it.i like loud muscle cars, loud sports cars, loud turbo cars... hate loud ignorant ricer carslike loud vtwins cruiser or sport, nice loud pipe on an inline, tripples sound great as well... hate ignorantly loud (straight piped) inlines (they just sound weird) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 LMAO.. Could you be a little more dramatic?as i said, i pulled it from the triumph forum, i didn't write it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wht_scorpion Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 They are trying to pass a law for all 2011 bikes exhaust to be stamped with the EPA.If a cop just has to see it with a after market exhaust they will be able to ticket you with out hearing it running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 glad im pre 2011 =). in all seriusness, i think thats insane, but what can we do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 sound is directional, how do people hear you coming when the exhaust is pointed to the rear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 If it's loud enough... I can be looking you in the eyes, and you'll know when I fart, even though the exhaust is in the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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