Tpoppa Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 but heaven and he'll are very real placesWhy do you think that?What about the millions & millions of people that died long before Christianity reached their corner of the world? To which one of these places did they go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 It's not a discussion I intend on having on a motorcycle forum, but heaven and he'll are very real places. I picture a long painful eternity in your future, and that makes me sad.THIS is sad. the Jesus I know would never approve of his faithful flock judging eternal damnation upon fellow sinners. you must be catholic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSB67 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) THIS is sad. the Jesus I know would never approve of his faithful flock judging eternal damnation upon fellow sinners. you must be catholic.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=123_1190395606P.S. Anybody watch Red State? Edited October 13, 2011 by brn6604 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attentiongetter92 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 swing on their nuts all ya want, i still hope their church has a gas leak and goes up flames next time theyre having their sunday get togetherI agree. And as to the debate on God's existence look at it this way. If your wrong and there is a heaven/hell, then your going to hell. But I spend an hour, maybe 2, every monthish to keep me safe in case it exists. It's not hurting anything to believe. Now church is over, let's get beer and be friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) No need to rail on Matt. He's just doing his job as a Christian. I wasn't offended by it. Ok' date=' but I kinda was.It's not a discussion I intend on having on a motorcycle forum, but heaven and he'll are very real places. I picture a long painful eternity in your future, and that makes me sad.Paraphrase: "My beliefs are right. Your beliefs are wrong. And I don't want to discuss it."I've encountered this attitude too many times in 'believers'. I generally don't let that slide anymore. If this dogma is so true, it should be able to withstand a rational discussion. Edited October 13, 2011 by Tpoppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 If this dogma is so true, it should be able to withstand a rational discussion.Bored much? Asking a question you already know the answer to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 No nut swinging here what they do is wrong.... I just don't agree. If I wanted to take your approach I would hope you get crushed by an 18 Wheeler on your way to work, but I don't cuz I understand people with different views is allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Bored much? Asking a question you already know the answer to.I don't get your meaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 In very rare instances can someone capable of believing in a fairy tale for their reality also have the ability to engage in a rational discussion but you already know that. Have fun trolling the delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Now I follow.Have fun trolling the delusional.Signature material right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beegreenstrings Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Does a reason matter? Can you think of a good reason to protest a serviceman's funeral? Never! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Never! Never! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ama146 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I agree. And as to the debate on God's existence look at it this way. If your wrong and there is a heaven/hell, then your going to hell. But I spend an hour, maybe 2, every monthish to keep me safe in case it exists. It's not hurting anything to believe. Now church is over, let's get beer and be friends.so you believe out of fear? and it is not about believing "just to be safe" for atheists, its about not believing because we simply don't believe and will not force ourselves to believe just because we are afraid of going to "hell". i firmly believe there is no god, so i am not afraid of going to hell because i don't believe there is a hell. i am just going to live life the best i can and not waste my life trying to get to some fairy land after i die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I agree. And as to the debate on God's existence look at it this way. If your wrong and there is a heaven/hell, then your going to hell. But I spend an hour, maybe 2, every monthish to keep me safe in case it exists. It's not hurting anything to believe. Now church is over, let's get beer and be friends.hey everyone, get a load of blaise pascal over here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Damn! Is it winter already? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) People have beleifs for a variety of reasons. If your beliefs bring you comfort then rep for you!However, the attitude of "my beliefs are right, your beliefs are wrong, and I really don't even care to know what your beliefs are," tends to get a reaction from me.Food for thought:The bible was written during times (roughly 1,500 BC - 100 AD) when the church and people in general firmly believed that if you traveled too far in any direction you would eventually fall off the edge of the Earth.As recently as the 1600s...Galileo (one of the most brilliant humans to have ever lived) was found to be a heretic and forced to spend the rest of his life under house arrest. His crime was suggesting that the Earth revolved around the Sun. This drew the ire of the Pope because this idea opposed the teachings of the chrurch and the word of God.If you read the entire bible (and I have), you may notice a common trend. The views of the bible reflect man's understanding of the world at the time it was written. There are no accomodations for the Earth being round, dinosaurs, evolution, the Earth revolving around the Sun, accountability for the souls of people from yet undiscovered civilizations, etc, etc. Primitive man knew nothing of these things. But the bible is the word of God, and God is all knowing. Hmmm. Edited October 13, 2011 by Tpoppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I do know that the word of God won't save you from a bullethttp://www.ohioriders.net/showthread.php?t=83354So if I have to believe in something, I'll believe in Smith & Wesson. Or Ruger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RVTPilot Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I don't believe there is a god' date=' but I'm not so convinced that I won't entertain the idea. However, if there is a god... it's not the god described in that book. Any god that I can conceive isn't small enough to have the restrictions placed on him that the bible/religion holds him to. My intent wasn't to turn this into a religion bashing thread. My intent was to illustrate just how empty the threats from WBC actually are.[/quote']Pauly, I'd rep you for this, but I already did earlier. This is as an intelligent and thoughtful response as I have seen in a thread of this nature.The fact that it came from you makes me thing you are getting soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Please do not rep the rep killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 ya, also, he has more rep than me again after i worked so hard to get moar than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 enjoy your rep bar in hell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attentiongetter92 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 hey everyone, get a load of blaise pascal over here...Jokes on you, I have no clue who that it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Jesus built my rep bar. It's a love affair mainly Jesus and my rep bar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attentiongetter92 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Laymen terms? It's hedging your bets... which kind of defeats the purpose of a faith-built relationship.I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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