JStump Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 So I was talking to my boss today who has been riding for quite a while and he was telling me all the things he wants in his next bike and one of the things was a slipper clutch, well I did some research on what it was and now I want one because I when I'm going around corners I use second gear but then the RPMS are too low and it kinda bogs till it hits 4K but when I go into first I get the power I want but even with rev matching I hop the back tire unless I slow way down. Can you get a slipper clutch for my bike and how much would one of those cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykill Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Learn to ride what you have. I do not have a slipper clutch and never have had that problem. Release the clutch slooowwly and you will get no wheel hop even with large RPM differences or atleast I havent.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 im sure ill get the hang of it eventually cuz i have only had the bike a couple weeks but i was just wondering if one even existed for my bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I'm sure they make one for it. Your going to pay a ton of money for it and really don't need it for street use. If you rev match the tire will not hop unless you don't get it right. Just keep up the practice and save the $800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamez Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) So I was talking to my boss today who has been riding for quite a while and he was telling me all the things he wants in his next bike and one of the things was a slipper clutch, well I did some research on what it was and now I want one because I when I'm going around corners I use second gear but then the RPMS are too low and it kinda bogs till it hits 4K but when I go into first I get the power I want but even with rev matching I hop the back tire unless I slow way down. Can you get a slipper clutch for my bike and how much would one of those cost?Please don't think I'm criticizing, Triumphs run rich and thrive at higher RPMs. Most Triumphs don't even hit their power band until around 5500. Triumphs are notorious for running pig rich. My TT doesn't like low RPMs for extended periods. The Daytonas have a much better fuel mapping since the old TT days but they still run better when the RPMs are up. If its bogging around turns then be in a lower gear and use more throttle. Daytona is a wet clutch ( I believe ), let it out slower you won't hurt it Edited July 10, 2011 by Jamez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) I'm sure they make one for it. Your going to pay a ton of money for it and really don't need it for street use. If you rev match the tire will not hop unless you don't get it right. Just keep up the practice and save the $800.try over a grand.http://www.hardracing.com/STM.htm Edited July 10, 2011 by serpentracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 There is no reason for a slipper clutch on a 600. Learn how to use it properly instead of looking for a crutch. Also you should be well above 4k rpm. I run 8k or better in the corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) double post Edited July 10, 2011 by JStump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Please don't think I'm criticizing, Triumphs run rich and thrive at higher RPMs. Most Triumphs don't even hit their power band until around 5500. Triumphs are notorious for running pig rich. My TT doesn't like low RPMs for extended periods. The Daytonas have a much better fuel mapping since the old TT days but they still run better when the RPMs are up. If its bogging around turns then be in a lower gear and use more throttle. Daytona is a wet clutch ( I believe ), let it out slower you won't hurt ityeah, i have noticed it doesnt really like to be under 4k and until it gets to 6500 you can feel it hesitating, this thing REALLY likes to be revedThere is no reason for a slipper clutch on a 600. Learn how to use it properly instead of looking for a crutch. Also you should be well above 4k rpm. I run 8k or better in the corners.damn, didnt know it would be that much, and i do about 4k in 2nd and 6k in first, i must not take corners as fast as you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 These people speak the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Um, isn't red line on the Daytona around 15,500? Why on this planet would you be shifting out of 1st at 6k when taking turns?You don't need a slipper clutch, you need to do a track day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 What rpm you do in a certain gear means nothing and how fast you are going means nothing. The point is to ride by rpms not gear or speed. When you are setting up for a section of twisties or a corner whatever....be in whatever gear that has your rpms atleast at 7000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) Um, isn't red line on the Daytona around 15,500? Why on this planet would you be shifting out of 1st at 6k when taking turns?You don't need a slipper clutch, you need to do a track dayredline is 14k if i remember correctly and its not that im shifting out of first, i just dont go down to it but instead use 2nd around a corner because its easier and when i go into 1st i tend to make the back wheel hop so i have just been sticking with second, but i dont shift until 10 or 11k after im around the cornerand i agree, i need a track day Edited July 10, 2011 by JStump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Then rev higher before you go to 1st and it wont hop. You have no need for a slipper clutch you need to learn how to shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykill Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Its a little different than your 250, clutch control is needed. Practice up you will get it. justalump Are you talking turns around town or like hitting the twisties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprez55 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Then rev higher before you go to 1st and it wont hop. You have no need for a slipper clutch you need to learn how to shift.This.Your rear wheel should never hop on a downshift. Each gear is ~1k rpm off from the next. When upshifting, in the time it takes to upshift, the revs drop so its smooth even when you dump the clutch. If you try to just dump on a downshift, you are ~2k off and the rear will lock up. You either need to release smooth and slow (unnecessary wear, but really doesn't matter either way) or blip the throttle. You should also not let the revs drop below half your redline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Its a little different than your 250, clutch control is needed. Practice up you will get it. justalump Are you talking turns around town or like hitting the twisties?im talking about turns in town, like 90* turns left and right, the twisties are cake lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprez55 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Well, the half redline thing is more for twisties; however, you should still not be locking the rear during decel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Slipper clutches a fun to have but not needed. If you are getting wheel hop at slow speeds with small rpm changes your chain might be too tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Slipper clutches a fun to have but not needed. If you are getting wheel hop at slow speeds with small rpm changes your chain might be too tight.actually i was told it was a bit loose, doesnt matter though cuz i have a new one coming in the mail this week and ill be adjusting it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykill Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Slipper clutches a fun to have but not needed. If you are getting wheel hop at slow speeds with small rpm changes your chain might be too tight.http://www.ohioriders.net/showthread.php?t=79421Make sure the sprockets arent toast too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 sprockets are good, the reason im replacing the chain is not because it is worn out but because it is impossible to clean, i have tried everything but since it was sitting outside it is basically garbage. the sprocket still has a lot of life in it.edit- and im not sure why you referenced my thread from a few days ago lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykill Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 UP said your chain might be too tight. I referenced it to make UP aware the condition of your chain. Im glad you got a new chain instead of trying to clean the old one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 oh gotchaand yeah, i tried everything from kerosene and a rag to wd40 and a nylon brush but it is not worth the trouble to me anymore cuz my next step was to take it off and soak it in kerosene and in the end the o rings probably are shot anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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