Gixxus Christ! Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Hi ya'll, I just got my first true sport bike last week and I'm not sure if it has as much power as it should. The 96 fzr600r has between 91 and 98 bhp depending on what review you read and mine is in good shape, no valves clacking, clean carbs, not blowing smoke etc... But it just doesn't feel like a 100 HP bike. I've ridden my cousins 07 gsxr600 and that bike is redonkulous. My fizzer is fast but i was expecting it to pick up the front tire with a red line power shift from first to second. It definitely has power, does 75 mph in 2nd gear, but Idk, not as powerful as I think it should be...or maybe I should just let my inner child buy a liter bike next spring...thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOW Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 HP ≠ torque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 weight is also a factory, your bike weighs more than any newer sportbike.gearing is probably differentetc. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 No need to get a liter bike just get a newer 600. My has 100hp and that's plenty for me right now. Plent of getty up and go. If I'm correct mine weighs around 450 I think and feels light aluminum and alloy metals help the weight stay down. As far a gearing and speed mine does 70 in first almost redline ( don't recommend doing that often) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted August 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Weighs 40lbs more than a gixxer and I probably weigh 40 lbs more than my cousin so maybe that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 i was expecting it to pick up the front tire with a red line power shift from first to secondGet a v twin for that..lolMine has around 120ish HP and im a big dude...I have trouble keeping the front grounded..what's your bike tach out at? Newer bikes I believe go 16 to 17 K maybe that's the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienpi Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Get a v twin for that..lolMine has around 120ish HP and im a big dude...I have trouble keeping the front grounded... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) the '96 FZR probably had 91-98hp at the crank, and when it was brand new.Unless you've had yours on a dyno, anything you read on the internet is just going to be a rough estimate.I had a '93 honda CBR 600 F2, and the previous owner showed me a dyno sheet that read 87 or 89hp.I believe that bike also redlined at around 13,500 RPM. So my '03 has at least 15 more horsepower, an additional 2,000 RPM to play with, weighs considerably less, and is (usually) geared taller.a 10 year difference in bike technology is definitely noticeable on the butt dyno.oh, and for the record, I have never power-wheelied my 600RR. I've clutched it up during a race start, and I'm sure power wheelies are quite possible if you're trying to do them, but you're not just going to accidentally lift the front wheel on a 600 by banging a 1-2 shift w/o the clutch. Personally, i've never felt comfortable power shifting through neutral, so I clutch from 1st to 2nd. After that, I don't bother. Edited August 10, 2011 by redkow97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 you can shift 1-2 through neutral with a QS, constant acceleration, i am giddy every time lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 98HP isn't so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siacono Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 My 93 F2 will shitngit but will not pickup the front unless I clutch it or bounce it..But I kinda like it that way because I can give her all she's got and not worry about the front picking up when I don't want it too.... Although getting on it hard she will come up about an inch sometimes when shifting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 HP ≠ torqueExactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 im sure the bike is faster than you can ride it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 the '96 FZR probably had 91-98hp at the crank, and when it was brand new.This, the rear wheel power is probably high 80's. The only way my buddies 97 YZF600R would wheelie when shifting is rolling of then pin it to get a huge weight transfer. Also, 40-50lbs is a huge deal and can be made woses pending where the extra weight is.Will the bike wheelie, YesWill you look like the guy I saw last friday and yesterday trying like hell to do a standup down the highway and it either does nothing or maybe and inch off the ground, YesChances are the bike is fine, you just have to run the piss out of it to get any power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedTriple44444 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 HP ≠ torque <thisalso:Crank HP ≠ Wheel HPI can power wheelie my speed triple in first, but not in second, and it's a bike known for wheelies. There's no way you're going to do it on that bike. Then again, I'm big and fat... not the typical magazine-variety 150lb. rider.I'm too much of a coward to clutch it up. I figure keeping the front wheel on the ground most of the time is probably a good thing for handling and my license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 I can power wheelie my speed triple in first, but not in second, and it's a bike known for wheelies. There's no way you're going to do it on that bike. Then again, I'm big and fat... not the typical magazine-variety 150lb. rider.Get a street triple R, my buddy can't keep the front end down in the first 3 gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted August 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 I'm not really looking to wheelie, just using that as an example. I'm also no magazine jockey, I tip the scales at 220. I think ill always need more power but my next purchase will be a Honda superhawk. Assloads of power and torque in a comfortable, slick looking bike? Don't mind if I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyone Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 then we will call you Ringo 2... hahahahahhahahahaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykill Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 oh, and for the record, I have never power-wheelied my 600RR. I've clutched it up during a race start, and I'm sure power wheelies are quite possible if you're trying to do them, but you're not just going to accidentally lift the front wheel on a 600 by banging a 1-2 shift w/o the clutch. Personally, i've never felt comfortable power shifting through neutral, so I clutch from 1st to 2nd. After that, I don't bother.Really? Mine would power wheelie with stock gearing and now Im +2 rear and it will come up even easier. Ive only ever wheelied on accident/power so not like I am an expert. Im too scared of dropping my bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 My C14 will wheelie easily for a big long heavy pig, of course the HP/torque is a big factor. I would LOVE to have a Triumph 636 in the garage too, that might just be the perfect sub 1000cc sportbike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Really? Mine would power wheelie with stock gearing and now Im +2 rear and it will come up even easier. Ive only ever wheelied on accident/power so not like I am an expert. Im too scared of dropping my bike.I've only ever ridden it on the track, so smooth throttle application is the name of the game.Plus 90% of the time I'm accelerating in a low gear, I'm also seriously leaned over exiting a turn.I've spun the rear many times, but no power wheelies. Never tried to do one on purpose.Then again, who knows - maybe my clutch has been shot for the last 2 years and I just dont' know any better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted August 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Well this bike is fast enough for Joe I hues, and it looks pretty good. Still probably gonna save my pennies and sell it and my seca next spring to get into a cbr1000rr or superhawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted August 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 A liter bike would give me more opportunities to have brief yet meaningful conversations with the local constabulary.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 A liter bike would give me more opportunities to have brief yet meaningful conversations with the local constabulary....No, need to follow the crowd by buying a litre. Ride for yourself and no one else. I thought about buying a litre for my first sport bike then got my 600rr and I love this bike. This bikes got plenty to offer and well its yellow so it gets noticed. Give your bike some time to grow on you and you'll be glad you kept it. I'm keeping mine till it can't run anymore and plan on buying a new one in a year or two a 1000rr for sure and still have my 600rr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo750katana Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 ive got 96 katana 750 and dont get me wrong, its fast and can keep up with most guy if i push it but like ur bike, its a lil heavier then the newer bikes also the gearing is different.. my katana is the same way, i struggle sumtime to pull the tire up shifting into 2nd...sometimes its from tire spin and other times is form the wieght/torque ratio....just same ur money and get a new 600...i rode many and they keep up with the 1000's with a few mods....not to mention way cheaper ins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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