Bad324 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 yes the title is on purpose I forgot to post this the other night but I was just curious about something. I live in a small pretty sleep suburb where the cops don't really have much to do. Friday night around 2:30am I see what looks like a spotlight/flashlight shining in my bedroom window, its directly above the driveway. I look out and see 2 cop cars, one inside his car with the spotlight the other outside with his flashlight shining in my 2 friends cars parked in the street. I wasn't real pleased about this but figured it was within their rights since the cars were in the street. Then he proceeds into my driveway and starts looking in my truck and my girlfriends car, at this point I was pissed. I was extremely inebriated and my patience level is about -35 in that stateAt this point I went in to my closet to find a shirt and to go downstairs and open the garage door and see what the issue was. Well I get out there and they are gone. Right when I was walking back into my house I saw the spotlight come around the corner again. This time just 1 car and he got out and then proceeded to look into my neighbor across the street car in his driveway. I calmly walked outside and asked what the issue was and he said "we got a noise complaint of loud music". I feel like he was bullshitting me with that excuse because normally it would be us or the neighbor next door but we had only been home half hour from the bar and everyone passed out immediately upon getting home. My neighbors just had a baby so I know damn well it wasnt them especially since I heard nothing.So after all that long windedness...were they in the wrong coming onto my property and semi searching the vehicles? I was a bit upset about this happening at the time but its not like the cop was being a dick to me or anything so I immediately calmed down and am just outright curious now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Sounds like they were casing your and your neighbor's stuff for future "late night shopping" endeavors.* edit: that's assuming your drunk @ss is remembering the events as they actually occurred... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 They may have seen it as doing your neighborhood a service by making sure the cars were secure and had not been tampered with while they were there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Sounds like they were casing your and your neighbor's stuff for future "late night shopping" endeavors.* edit: that's assuming your drunk @ss is remembering the events as they actually occurred...yes...I was starting to sober up at that point. I'm also very used to dealing with the Law at that hour and state of mind from college so its pretty normal for meWhen I first saw the flashlights and someone looking in the cars thats exactly what I thought until I saw the car parked down the street and he turned and I could clearly see the uniform as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZRMatt Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 yes the title is on purpose I forgot to post this the other night but I was just curious about something. I live in a small pretty sleep suburb where the cops don't really have much to do. Friday night around 2:30am I see what looks like a spotlight/flashlight shining in my bedroom window, its directly above the driveway. I look out and see 2 cop cars, one inside his car with the spotlight the other outside with his flashlight shining in my 2 friends cars parked in the street. I wasn't real pleased about this but figured it was within their rights since the cars were in the street. Then he proceeds into my driveway and starts looking in my truck and my girlfriends car, at this point I was pissed. I was extremely inebriated and my patience level is about -35 in that stateAt this point I went in to my closet to find a shirt and to go downstairs and open the garage door and see what the issue was. Well I get out there and they are gone. Right when I was walking back into my house I saw the spotlight come around the corner again. This time just 1 car and he got out and then proceeded to look into my neighbor across the street car in his driveway. I calmly walked outside and asked what the issue was and he said "we got a noise complaint of loud music". I feel like he was bullshitting me with that excuse because normally it would be us or the neighbor next door but we had only been home half hour from the bar and everyone passed out immediately upon getting home. My neighbors just had a baby so I know damn well it wasnt them especially since I heard nothing.So after all that long windedness...were they in the wrong coming onto my property and semi searching the vehicles? I was a bit upset about this happening at the time but its not like the cop was being a dick to me or anything so I immediately calmed down and am just outright curious nowYour eyes can never commit a trespass assuming they are legally in the spot. Meaning, for example, if you or your wife choose to walk around naked inside your house, and a crowd gathers on the sidewalk to watch, that is on you because they are not trespassing to get a look.If it were me responding to a noise complaint, unless I was given specific information from a known caller (someone I could contact if necessary) that the noise was coming from your house, I would listen for the noise then act from there. My guess is that when you came home, you made more noise than you think you did and a neighbor specified your house as the offender.The fact of the matter is that people (kids, adults curious about the cool car you own, and thieves) have all come onto your property and looked in your car at one time or another. It just so happens that this time they caught your attention with their spot light and it happened to be a cop. I get that it can piss you off, but I would guess that it truly wasn't malicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) Wouldn't seem to me to take much more looking than "are all of the doors shut completely, and are all of the windows intact" to determine whether or not any vehicles had been tampered with.What is the officer going to be able to tell by looking inside the vehicle? How would (s)he know what (if anything) was missing?btw, I am normally 100% behind law enforcement officers - this just sounds kinda funny. Probably just doing their job, but you never know. Edited March 13, 2012 by jblosser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 With all the good stuff you post online that you have bought I would be happy knowing the cops are in your area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 The fact of the matter is that people (kids, adults curious about the cool car you own, and thieves) have all come onto your property and looked in your car at one time or another. It just so happens that this time they caught your attention with their spot light and it happened to be a cop. I get that it can piss you off, but I would guess that it truly wasn't malicious.I think the question is whether it was appropriate in the situation, since there doesn't seem to be any reason for them to have gone up to the vehicles in the driveway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Wouldn't seem to me to take much more looking than "are all of the doors shut completely, and are all of the windows intact" to determine whether or not any vehicles had been tampered with.What is the officer going to be able to tell by looking inside the vehicle? How would (s)he know what (if anything) was missing?btw, I am normally 100% behind law enforcement officers - this just sounds kinda funny. Probably just doing their job, but you never know.This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 If they were sent specifically to his address they had every right to look in those cars. They have to protect themselves and for all they know there could be someone in one of those cars. If they weren't sent specifically to his address then they shouldn't have been in the driveway looking in the cars but they didn't harass anyone. Maybe there has been some vehicle break-ins recently. If someone knows how to use a slim-jim properly you can be in the car in seconds toss the vehicle grab the goodies and close it all back up looking in the window they would see if the car had been tossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 You should have walked out of the garage naked, shouldering a loaded shotgun, with your own light pointed at them.That would have been a story worth reading...They may not have been real cops.These days, you just don't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 don't tase me bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Your eyes can never commit a trespass assuming they are legally in the spot. Meaning, for example, if you or your wife choose to walk around naked inside your house, and a crowd gathers on the sidewalk to watch, that is on you because they are not trespassing to get a look.If it were me responding to a noise complaint, unless I was given specific information from a known caller (someone I could contact if necessary) that the noise was coming from your house, I would listen for the noise then act from there. My guess is that when you came home, you made more noise than you think you did and a neighbor specified your house as the offender.The fact of the matter is that people (kids, adults curious about the cool car you own, and thieves) have all come onto your property and looked in your car at one time or another. It just so happens that this time they caught your attention with their spot light and it happened to be a cop. I get that it can piss you off, but I would guess that it truly wasn't malicious.My confusion came in the fact he stated "loud bass music". The car we came home with doesn't currently have a working radio because I originally thought the same as you but it was a good 30-45mins after we had been home they showed up, which is unlike the department as in other cases they were out immediately. Not to mention, they didn't even start at my place but about 4-5 houses down as thats where the car was parked and I highly doubt it was called on us specifically as only 1 person on our street would do so and they are actually renting their place out to people who party with us. If were too loud all the neighbors have my cell and only twice has anyone ever texted us saying they could hear the music through the walls (townhouse)Like I said, at first that evening I was kind of not happy about it as I wasn't sure what the protocol for that is. I was fine when they were scoping the cars in the street since it was 230am and technically we have a street parking ban from 3-6am. Not really sure why and in the 3 years I've lived here and been parking on the street with my truck or friends cars on the weekend, only 1 ever got a ticket from it. It was once they came on the property and were really giving a good look into the cars when I became slightly agitated.I didn't go out yelling and screaming like an asshole and stated I was curious what was going on cause I saw flashlights and wanted to make sure everything was ok. Cop was real nice about it and I'm betting he is one of the guys that had been out for our neighbors a whole bunch of times. Wouldn't seem to me to take much more looking than "are all of the doors shut completely, and are all of the windows intact" to determine whether or not any vehicles had been tampered with.What is the officer going to be able to tell by looking inside the vehicle? How would (s)he know what (if anything) was missing?btw, I am normally 100% behind law enforcement officers - this just sounds kinda funny. Probably just doing their job, but you never know.This is exactly my thoughts and why I had my concerns. Especially in our little city they don't have much to do except take radar and respond to noise complaints and I understand that so its usually no big deal. I'm sure they were doing their jobs as well but this time was just different and didn't exactly feel like shining flashlights in various vehicles in driveways was necessary to execute a noise complaint. If music was come from the car, you'd hear it several feet before pressing your nose to the glass with flashlight shining in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 With all the good stuff you post online that you have bought I would be happy knowing the cops are in your area.Being where I live and having double coverage insurance as well as a security system if they get past that then they get to deal with not only myself but my roommate and on the weekends usually another friend or 2 that all carry. My worry for a break in theft is littleI think the question is whether it was appropriate in the situation, since there doesn't seem to be any reason for them to have gone up to the vehicles in the driveway.If they were sent specifically to his address they had every right to look in those cars. They have to protect themselves and for all they know there could be someone in one of those cars. If they weren't sent specifically to his address then they shouldn't have been in the driveway looking in the cars but they didn't harass anyone. Maybe there has been some vehicle break-ins recently. If someone knows how to use a slim-jim properly you can be in the car in seconds toss the vehicle grab the goodies and close it all back up looking in the window they would see if the car had been tossed.what jporter said. There have been no break ins in the neighborhood, if there had been I would have known for sure and he would've probably said something. I'm fairly positive our address wasn't called in specifically plus it wasn't just my truck, there were 2 other neighbors on the street with cars in the driveway I saw them do the sameYou should have walked out of the garage naked, shouldering a loaded shotgun, with your own light pointed at them.That would have been a story worth reading...They may not have been real cops.These days, you just don't know...I nearly went down shirtless when my girlfriend yelled at me to put a shirt on so I didn't look like one of the drunken assholes on COPS Had I not seen the cars or uniforms I would have gone down armed but felt it unnecessary to act like a moron and make a calm situation into a tense one. But yes it would make for a much better story. I'm not a cop hater, my grandfather was a Cleveland cop for 40 years and I have a respect for the ones that do it right and are just doing their job.I'm just more curious than anything what the point of what they did was and if it was within their bounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Maybe they were just looking for some left over burritos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jporter12 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Maybe they were just looking for some left over burritosHe had the burrito cart in the garage, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Well then that explains it the could smell the burritos but could not locate the source of said smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Well then that explains it the could smell the burritos but could not locate the source of said smellCha-ching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZRMatt Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I think the question is whether it was appropriate in the situation, since there doesn't seem to be any reason for them to have gone up to the vehicles in the driveway.Unless the call specified loud music from a car. We get those all of the time where I work. However, they are usually parked on the street because there is very little off street parking. When we check it, there is usually someone leaned back in their seat enjouing the fruit for their labor after installing new equipment.My confusion came in the fact he stated "loud bass music". The car we came home with doesn't currently have a working radioThe problem is, they have no way of knowing that (especially without looking and seeing no radio). Like I said in the the reply to jporter12, it may have been a loud music call from a car. But maybe they didn't know the exact house it was coming from. If they had a known caller, they are required to look into it (at least we are). In the whole sceme of things, it was a very minimal "invasion of privacy" by coming onto the property. I don't know where you live, but maybe a loud music call was the excitment for the night, which would explain multiple cars looking for the felony loud music.You never know what you are going to stumble on when checking a simple call. I know a couple of officers who were driving down Indianola Ave. and saw a guy and girl screwing on the front porch roof. Obviously they were curious (said she was hot from ground level) and went to get a better look. Turns out they stumbled onto a guy breaking into multiple cars in the common parking lot (shared by multiple houses) behind the house. The missed the rest of the show but ended up with a felony arrest out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 ^^^ :sex: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Why would they be looking inside cars with flashlights for a noise complaint? Wouldn't they be able to hear the music and follow their ears to where the music is coming from? I'm no cop though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 This mystery is easily solved. Do a public records request for the phone call complaint logs around that time. Here is what happened, they got a complaint on loud music and were looking in the cars for some beefed up stereos. It is as simple as that. That is their job, I personally would have no problem if they did that to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I got searched once. Some off-duty cop at the Krogers on High St called in saying that a tall white guy with a shaved head and goatee, wearing a wife-beater and driving a white Mustang GT had a gun leaving Krogers. Guess who else is a tall white guy, with a shaved head and goatee, was wearing a wife-beater, and was driving a white Mustang GT leaving Krogers... The TOSSED my car looking for that gun. They didn't believe me when I said they had to have the wrong guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 was the "tall white guy...." causing a disturbance/inducing panic/robbing the store?I see no probable cause to search your car; fruit of the poisonous tree and all that law gibberish.I could be wrong, though, and it wouldn't be the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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