first gun

[snot]

Edit: bad day just caught what I did .40

Edited October 23, 2012 by snot

[BDBGoalie]

.040 cal

Attention to detail is not your strong suit. That round would be 5 1/2 times smaller than a .22lr.

[ninjachic]

I'm sure I can handle the kick back if I handled my exes gun as well as I did. It was more of an adrenaline rush than anything because it was a lot bigger and more powerful than I expected. but I still dont want anything as powerful as that one. I wish I could remember what it was. and of course something cheaper to shoot than his as well.

[BDBGoalie]

I'm sure I can handle the kick back if I handled my exes gun as well as I did. It was more of an adrenaline rush than anything because it was a lot bigger and more powerful than I expected. but I still dont want anything as powerful as that one. I wish I could remember what it was. and of course something cheaper to shoot than his as well.

Being able to handle the kick is different that being comfortable with firing it. If you don't like shooting it, you won't use it.

[ninjachic]

Being able to handle the kick is different that being comfortable with firing it. If you don't like shooting it, you won't use it.

oh I know. his was too powerful for me so I wasnt comfortable firing it which is why I want something a bit smaller to shoot. But I'm also really wanting something pretty cheap to shoot as well.

[TheBrown57]

this is what my buddy has.

This is the included holster

I shouldn even be asking but price?

[MidgetTodd]

Yeah. I have tiny little hands .

I have small hands as well

Would you people start using the proper terms! They are called "porn hands"

Porn hands make things look bigger

[BDBGoalie]

I shouldn even be asking but price?

1911's in .22LR aren't that expensive. If the can is real it might cost more than the pistol.

[C-bus]

Korth

[MidgetTodd]

hahaha. Aiight, I'll be sure to stop in tomorrow then.

I was referring to my rockstar Howie

But you can come see me too

[MidgetTodd]

Korth

You stop in today and get your special box I put together for you?

[C-bus]

You stop in today and get your special box I put together for you?

That box grew and grew and grew. Thanks, amigo.

[ninjachic]

Would you people start using the proper terms! They are called "porn hands"

Porn hands make things look bigger [/quo

my apologies. porn hands. That actually reminds me, I actually have a really really funny story about that. We call it the small dick story. anyways, you'll see what I mean tomorrow when I stop by.

[MidgetTodd]

well if it looked small in porn hands it surely shouldnt be called a dick, thats a peepee

[ninjachic]

well if it looked small in porn hands it surely shouldnt be called a dick, thats a peepee

yeah it was pretty small and he said, "oh wow, your small hands make my small dick look big." and I just bursted out laughing. Needless to say he got dressed and left and that was the last I saw of him and I just couldnt stop laughing the whole time.

[4DAIVI PAI2K5]

I shouldn even be asking but price?

Believe he said 325

[baggyp]

For home defense, Glock (19 for small hands) is the way to go (or a revolver).

Limited extra safety features to think about in high stress situation, you squeeze the trigger and it shoots, simple for a gun noob.

For fun, 22LR Mosquito by Sig Sauer.

Just figured I would throw some Glock support in since it's the outcast gun ;(

[MidgetTodd]

yeah it was pretty small and he said, "oh wow, your small hands make my small dick look big." and I just bursted out laughing. Needless to say he got dressed and left and that was the last I saw of him and I just couldnt stop laughing the whole time.

He was laughing too because he still won, he got it in your hands

[ninjachic]

He was laughing too because he still won, he got it in your hands

actually he was PISSED!!!!!!! pretty sure he called me a bitch too.

[cOoTeR]

9mm horrible for defense? Really?

and by the way, there's no such thing as .45 long colt. It's .45 Colt. But yes, the cartridge is fairly long.

9mm is a great cartridge to for a first gun. It packs plenty of punch for defensive use without making you dread shooting it at the practice range.

But for beginner shooters that want a first pistol I almost always recommend a metal framed revolver chambered in .38 special. If this isn't going to be a gun you carry than get one with a longer barrel, 4-5 inches as these are far more accurate and don't recoil nearly as much. Revolvers are far less prone to failure, especially those caused by improper use. There are number of revolver options out there that fit the bill for under $500.

What's this stuff then?

http://www.bulkammo.com/handgun/bulk-.45-long-colt-ammo

It's the same thing they just call it by different names.

Have you ever used a gun in a stressed situation? If so how accurate were you? You cannot convince me a 9mm is a good round for defense situations. I carry a gun everyday not because its my right, my choice or it is cool I carry because I have to. My life is on the line I go with either an M4 or 870 as my primary depending on the area I'm working and an hk .40 as my secondary firearm. As there are other guns is prefer over the hk but we have to use what is issued to us. But I wouldn't do the job I do now with a 9mm or a .38. Hell even the ODRC has switched to .40 glocks over the S&W .38 and they rarely ever need to draw their firearm.

Edited October 22, 2012 by cOoTeR

[jbot]

quit yer cryin', this thread is now about porn hands and hand jobs gone wrong.

[MidgetTodd]

As it should be

[Pokey]

Anything 9mm or smaller is horrible for defense but for the most part cheaper can be cheaper at the range. The best gun I can recommend is the taurus judge. It is a revolver that shoots .45 long colt or .410 its cheap to shoot doesn't kick to bad for a revolver and with the .410 loads you don't have to be too accurate. Check out the winchester .410 defense rounds that were designed for the taurus judge. I believe smith and wesson have a similar gun with .45 acp .45 long colt .410 and maybe .454 called the governor. In a high stress situation the semi auto handguns become hard to use due to the body's fight or flight response affecting fine motor skills. It takes a lot of training to be able to overcome that and be able to get a good sight picture or take care of any malfunctions. Watch any police shoot out video they are trained often and still very seldom hit their target without unloading their gun by firing all the rounds in it. Also if you use it in a self defense situation you need to worry about over penetration (going into another room or house). Shot guns loaded with shot will get the job done without being as likely to go through your neighbours house also. I would recommend getting a short barrel .870 for home defense. 18.5in is the shortest you can get. They are inexpensive and easy to operate. Then after that get a taurus judge or sw governor. Then worry about a small cal range gun.

Oh dear Lord here we go........what caliber other than .223 or .308 has killed more people since WWII than a 9mm? And let me shoot you with a .380 or a 22 and see how you fare. I get what you are saying, but even a 40, 45 or 357 won't always stop a drugged up person wanting to kill you. Shot placement and shot placement tends to get the job done.

Edited October 23, 2012 by Pokey

[BDBGoalie]

What's this stuff then?

http://www.bulkammo.com/handgun/bulk-.45-long-colt-ammo

It's the same thing they just call it by different names.

Have you ever used a gun in a stressed situation? If so how accurate were you? You cannot convince me a 9mm is a good round for defense situations. I carry a gun everyday not because its my right, my choice or it is cool I carry because I have to. My life is on the line I go with either an M4 or 870 as my primary depending on the area I'm working and an hk .40 as my secondary firearm. As there are other guns is prefer over the hk but we have to use what is issued to us. But I wouldn't do the job I do now with a 9mm or a .38. Hell even the ODRC has switched to .40 glocks over the S&W .38 and they rarely ever need to draw their firearm.

Practice for high stress and shoot what you are comfortable with. Three rounds in rapid succession in the x ring will kill with just about any caliber. You shoot me three times in the chest with a .22LR and I'm going to find another victim.

[Pokey]

For home defense, Glock (19 for small hands) is the way to go (or a revolver).

Limited extra safety features to think about in high stress situation, you squeeze the trigger and it shoots, simple for a gun noob.

For fun, 22LR Mosquito by Sig Sauer.

Just figured I would throw some Glock support in since it's the outcast gun ;(

Except for the new Gen IV, Glocks are a horrible horrible choice for small hands. Now if I were a betting man, I would bet she would really like how an M&P 9 compact will feel. I also agree 100% with Todd on the PF-9 as a good choice, fit great in the hand and are very reliable, just ask the Martin family. But 22 pistols are so much fun, some really great choices given for those.