Gixxus Christ! Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 *Lynn strait. I saw one of their last performances at the rubber bowl in 98 at ozzfest. They killed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Sucks Lynn Strait died, big loss to the metal industry right there and their album is a fav of mine. I enjoy crankin up "My Balls Your Chin" at work and always get asked who it is. Corey Taylor is talented with his range and versatility, but no more than a lot of other less famous frontmen in those same genres. Slipknot's image and antics propelled them into stardom, not their raw talent. Although a semi-unique idea in their image which also proved to help the likes of MushroomHead and Mudvayne, but musically.....Slipknots definitely not all that. MushroomHead has huge dynamics and diversity, surpassing Slipknots skills by far......but we're talking vocal work here, not musicianship/composition.Chuck Billy really helped pioneer that wide vocal style that tons of bands imitate with all the singing he did on old Testament albums and later brought the vicious gutteral growls on Low and Demonic in the mid 90's - his range is wider than most any other I've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Phil anselmo also has killer range if you listen to the notes he hits on cemetary gates. I remember reading an interview where he explained how he increased his range by going so high his voice would break up. it would kill his voice for a few days, then when he healed there would be a note there.Phil is a huge Dick and a shitty egomaniacle douche fuck but he had a set of pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Sucks Lynn Strait died, big loss to the metal industry right there and their album is a fav of mine. I enjoy crankin up "My Balls Your Chin" at work and always get asked who it is. Corey Taylor is talented with his range and versatility, but no more than a lot of other less famous frontmen in those same genres. Slipknot's image and antics propelled them into stardom, not their raw talent. Although a semi-unique idea in their image which also proved to help the likes of MushroomHead and Mudvayne, but musically.....Slipknots definitely not all that. MushroomHead has huge dynamics and diversity, surpassing Slipknots skills by far......but we're talking vocal work here, not musicianship/composition.Chuck Billy really helped pioneer that wide vocal style that tons of bands imitate with all the singing he did on old Testament albums and later brought the vicious gutteral growls on Low and Demonic in the mid 90's - his range is wider than most any other I've heard.Lynn Strait was great but i'd say he was more punk music. A lot like the old Sugar Ray before they went pop. Are you serious about slipknot not having that much talent? Joey Jordison is one of the best drummers of all time. Jim Root is a great guitarist the problem is with slipknot having soo much going on it blends in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykill Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Lynn Strait was great but i'd say he was more punk music. A lot like the old Sugar Ray before they went pop. Are you serious about slipknot not having that much talent? Joey Jordison is one of the best drummers of all time. Jim Root is a great guitarist the problem is with slipknot having soo much going on it blends in.This ^They are far from a gimmick act. I dont understand why Mushroomhead keeps being brought up. They dont hold a match to Slipknot. The guitars, drums and vocals shaped the genre into what it is today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anden Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I have not listened to Snot (the band) for ages need to give them another listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anden Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Gutteral singing. Gotta give some love to a friend's band. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=VHqwzMZ_KUE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVHqwzMZ_KUE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongDogRacing Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 youtube "Devin Townsend Project".... epic metal indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 This ^They are far from a gimmick act. I dont understand why Mushroomhead keeps being brought up. They dont hold a match to Slipknot. The guitars, drums and vocals shaped the genre into what it is today.Everyone is gonna have their own opinion on the mushroomhead/slipknot divide.I had been going to shroom shows for years before I ever heard of slipknot. While they both reside in the same general genre, their music is not mutually comparable, just way too different IMO. Neither rely on anything close to technical guitar work or progressive-type time signature. They both jam, for sure. I am biased towards mushroomhead because of the time in my life when I was driving to Cleveland every weekend to see them play, back before they got signed, before the uniforms etc. When they used to perform in costume to hide the fact they all were also in other popular local bands at the time. I never didnt get at least a handy at most of their shows...something about the chicks that went to see them back in the mid to late 90's....always horny.Anyway they did go downhill after their 3rd album. I still listen to the stuff they released on independent labels here in Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) I like old mushroomhead vs new. They have had a lot of guest vocalist as well as member changes. Edited November 29, 2012 by snot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Ray Gillen: Badlands "RIP" Badlands kicked ass!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IepGiupfguMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUY_gG2nANU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Not many better or more powerful voices "ever". Sebastian Bach And Skid Row kicked ass too! Yeah.....yeah.... I love my 80's and 90's rock.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQq72ULF_ghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhKCPUeQ0HM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Lynn Strait was great but i'd say he was more punk music. A lot like the old Sugar Ray before they went pop. Are you serious about slipknot not having that much talent? Joey Jordison is one of the best drummers of all time. Jim Root is a great guitarist the problem is with slipknot having soo much going on it blends in.Ok, Nick started this thread about Corey's vox, not music in general; but I'll elaborate on my stance. Joey is a talented drummer, and I dont discredit that fact. Mick, Joey, and Corey make that band happen at the level it does.I shared a stage with Slipknot back when they went by "Meld" and only a 5 or 6 piece group, a big metal Chicago show around mid '95 I think, back when I was in my first deathmetal band. They are nothing like they were back then, just a raw metal act and completely different lineup other than Jordison....and he's a far better drummer now than he used to be, and of course he should be since he plays for a living. But that band was a completely different animal before they became Slipknot, before Corey, and before RoadRunner picked them up.They just aren't anything THAT spectacular when it comes to the more melodic metal that they changed to from way back when you compare them to other select groups in the same genre, same style metal. Musical talent in a metal band can be interpreted so many different ways depending on the eyes/ears judging its value, but from a musicians perspective......I dont see GREATNESS in their music, which is where the image, intensity, crazy stage shows, and 9 members looking busy really help sell it as a product all its own. GREAT metal bands, in my personal opinion, should have incredible talent across the board and not rely on just a few of its members to pull the group up. But this isnt the case all the time. More and more I see/hear lesser talent being gifted huge amounts of funding to promote their mediocre droppings all over the radio If you want the best drummers on the planet, the deathmetal has HUGE skillsets when it comes to speed and technique, and its amazing what they can do. But, music like that is typically overcooked with what they can do well, instead of investing in tasteful ideas to help show a wider dynamic for the music itself. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should all the time kind of scenario, if that makes sense. Drummers in metal, some are killer and some aren't.....drummers in deathmetal, holy shit you wont believe your ears......but the guitar and vocal work is a VERY aquired taste and not everyone can tolerate that part of the genre.If you dare, check out any of the drummers that were in Dying Fetus and tell me how fast Joey REALLY is....or Lamb of God, or Cryptopsy, or Solipsist, or Impending Doom, or Threat Signal.....thousands long, the list is monstrously stacked with faster and better players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Pure talent and total professionals, look no further than RUSH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Everyone is gonna have their own opinion on the mushroomhead/slipknot divide.I had been going to shroom shows for years before I ever heard of slipknot. While they both reside in the same general genre, their music is not mutually comparable, just way too different IMO. Neither rely on anything close to technical guitar work or progressive-type time signature. They both jam, for sure. I am biased towards mushroomhead because of the time in my life when I was driving to Cleveland every weekend to see them play, back before they got signed, before the uniforms etc. When they used to perform in costume to hide the fact they all were also in other popular local bands at the time. I never didnt get at least a handy at most of their shows...something about the chicks that went to see them back in the mid to late 90's....always horny.Anyway they did go downhill after their 3rd album. I still listen to the stuff they released on independent labels here in Ohio.I agree Sam, old MushroomHead is far better than any of their new stuff. And Phil ( with Pantera, not really a Down fan ) is one hell of a front man, but like you said his ego destroys his off stage persona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron505 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Pure talent and total professionals, look no further than RUSH.True dat!!! Talk about a drummer...Neil is among the best of all time!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrown57 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Philip Labonte from All that Remains is another favorite of mineThisThey are playing at McGuffys sometime soon according to a friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 All that remains kinda lost me after 'the fall of ideals'. They kept softening shit up to be radio friendly. Well.congrats, you're on the radio now and you sound like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrown57 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 No argument there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 They are not playing the newest stuff on the radio. Machine head did it then they went back to there roots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAC Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 What has 9 arms and sucks?Def LeppardProbly didn't suck as hard as your love - Freddie Mercury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrown57 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Any time I've seen ATR they always play old stuff, saw them as a headliner and every song was from The Fall of Ideals and 1 or 2 from Overcome.I think Overcome is a good album but the one after it, not so much. Haven't hear their latest album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 another fav of mine is unearth predetermined sky has a bad ass drum and guitar solo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrown57 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I like me some Unearth.Don't know if it was mentioned but Trivium is pretty sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePVErcAUzK8Just felt like sharing that I like this song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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