jagr Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Stoeger Double Defense or coach gun. http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger-double-defense.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 For your parent age skill level i would say go with a 20ga. Less kick then a 12ga and plenty of take down power still. Could go with a mossy 500 pistol grip. Around the same price as the .38 you mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Rossi .410 Circuit Judge. Lighter, easy, familiar way to load. Get 00 buck rounds. Walmart may still have these.http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=211&category=15&toggle=&breadcrumbseries= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I wish they made those in 20ga that would be sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 lol...That'd be a HUGE cylinder but bad ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 i find your avatar offensive... that is all.you shouldn't find it offensive, you should find it concerning. Flying the flag inverted is a distress signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Is thinking of going with a shotty go with a 20 gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I said it, I find it offensive, that is all.No debate, no extra threads, if he wishes to use such a dire distress call for a political ad, so be it. He has freedom of speech. I just personally found it offensive, carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I disagree with 90% of what Magz says. I however agree with him here, to a point. Do I find it offensive, no. Do I think it's wrong and and immature and somewhat moronic, yes. It is a distress signal, NOT a political statement. Show a little respect for our service members that fight for that flag and know when to fly it upside down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 +1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I picked up a flashlight at a police auction. It's small and handheld but will reach the clouds and kill small mammals. When you narrow the beam all the way down the light is in the shape of a boxed silhouette. It says CREE on it. $15.I have something similar I got from Woot that I keep next to the gun for same reason. Its come in handy many times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I disagree with 90% of what Magz says. I however agree with him here, to a point. Do I find it offensive, no. Do I think it's wrong and and immature and somewhat moronic, yes. It is a distress signal, NOT a political statement. Show a little respect for our service members that fight for that flag and know when to fly it upside down.Half mast would be very appropriate, could always change to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idodishez Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I disagree with 90% of what Magz says. I however agree with him here, to a point. Do I find it offensive, no. Do I think it's wrong and and immature and somewhat moronic, yes. It is a distress signal, NOT a political statement. Show a little respect for our service members that fight for that flag and know when to fly it upside down.Again. My opinion IS that we are in distress. We don't have to agree. I will still buy guns from you:)And in no way do I intend disrespect to our military or the service they provide. I'm sure the same applies to the many service members who themselves are flying it upside down. Now... Back on topic. Shotgun vs revolver for home defense. Shotgun better, even in this scenario?PS, do u still have that S&W 9 at the shop?Nobama 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 shotgun over revolver hands down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Now... Back on topic. Shotgun vs revolver for home defense. Shotgun better, even in this scenario?PS, do u still have that S&W 9 at the shop?Nobama 2012Shotgun always better for homeShotgun far better than revolver for shaky and slower elderlyDo not know on the SW you would have to call and ask. I have not been there for a couple days but my guess is no at that price and the way stuff has been selling. I will be by there tomorrow though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdubyah Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Get a judge and have both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Flyer Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I don't own a shotgun, but if I did own one for home defense it would be for the safety of nothing leaving my house and hitting a civilian outside of my home if I did have to fire upon an intruder. A handgun round will make it through your walls and keep going if you miss your intruder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 ^^ This. Buddy at work who have been in combat says you shoot for the muzzle flash or just below it in low light. Gun mounted light the same. I was told to hold it away from your body off to the side a bit.Edit or get a shotgun and forget the light.How are you going to identify the target in low/no light if you forget the light?Also, did your buddy say what he did with HIS weapon mounted light in combat? Is this the same buddy that had the questionable claims of being high speed?While holding it away can be a valid tactic, doesn't work for rifles or shotguns very well and you give up the ability to have a 2 handed grip on a pistol.The common tactics for using tactical lights are : illuminate, identify, shoot, move, unilluminate or illuminate, identify, unilluminate, move, shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Leave the hall light on? Never been a fan of weapon mounted lights in a home defense scenario. Better off putting a bright flash light on the dresser and waiting for the perp to enter the bedroom. He immediately tur.s his attention to the light on the dresser and you can be on the other side of the room drawing a bead on him. That was the suggestion from my ccw instructor.Why even use the gun in that scenario? Why not just have a tripwire that triggers a bucket above the door that dumps big rocks on the guy? Afterall, that's about as gimmicky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) Why even use the gun in that scenario? Why not just have a tripwire that triggers a bucket above the door that dumps big rocks on the guy? Afterall, that's about as gimmicky.hell yeah, some "home alone" action going on there...if you really want to deter perps from breaking into your house you should set up that mannequin house party thing from home alone... Edited December 18, 2012 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Lights blind people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Lights are bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownsfan1 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 My dogs would get the perp first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Most tactical trainer types teach the following tactics (caveat, there is likely newer stuff that I'm not as up on):1. illuminate, identify, shoot, move, unilluminate or 2. illuminate, identify, unilluminate, move, shoot.There are pros/cons to a weapon mounted light. Personally, it was only recently I started using them on pistols vs a handheld light. Handheld lights are pretty useless/hard to use with long guns (without duct tape). ProsAlways there ready to goYou don't need to change your grip on the gun to use them.ConsWhen identifying your target, you are always pointing the weapon at them. This means you could cover someone with your muzzle that you don't really want to.New holstersModifying your shooting grip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 hell yeah, some "home alone" action going on there...exactly. That should show how silly the suggested tactic is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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