shittygsxr Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yeah, funny you mention that. My dad used to visit a coffee shop here in C-bus where there were usually a lot of LEOs. He could hear the calls coming in over the radio and the officers would hang out a bit until answering. Once the old guy finally asked, "Shouldn't you answer that?" They told my dad they were waiting for the situation to "mature" or something. He couldn't remember the actual word, but it was something like that.Certainly not all LEOs are like that, and it's a rough job, but these guys seemed to have timed it so about six cruisers show well after the event and several minutes before the media arrive.Being a convience store clerk is a rough job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Finding AR parts right now is a lot harder job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Finding AR parts right now is a lot harder job.Finding parts is easy. finding them at the right price, is a bitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Running outta rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 This was forwarded by a friend and it's an article from....drum roll.....Russia. http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 From Bob GibbsJanuary 15, 2013Dear Mr. Parks,Thank you for contacting me regarding your opposition to further gun control legislation. As your representative in Congress, I appreciate your input on this important issue.On December 14, 2012 our nation experienced an unspeakable tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut. A gunman stormed Sandy Hook Elementary School and murdered 20 young children and six adult staff members. My thoughts and prayers continue to go out to the victims and families of those affected. As a father myself, I cannot begin to imagine the pain these families are experiencing.In response, the President and some members of Congress have called for stricter gun control legislation. Senator Dianne Feinstein has already announced she will introduce a new assault weapons ban in the 113th Congress and President Obama has appointed Vice President Biden to head a task force looking at ideas and legislation to curb gun violence.While I am deeply saddened by the senseless acts of violence in Connecticut, I do not believe it is appropriate to politicize this heinous incident and use it as a platform to push for new gun control legislation. People choose to own firearms for a variety of reasons and many new gun laws end up adding burdens to law abiding citizens and our 2nd Amendment rights.We should enforce current laws and work to ensure individuals with mental illness and criminals can't carry out criminal acts against our fellow citizens. Thank you for your input, I will be sure to keep your views in mind.Again, thank you for contacting my office. Please continue to keep me informed on the issues that are important to you. For more information on my work in Congress, or to sign up to receive my e-newsletter, please visit the 7th District's website at: http://gibbs.house.gov.Sincerely,Bob Gibbs Member of Congress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Encouraging at least.We'll all see how they vote when the time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/15/politics/gun-laws-battle/index.html?hpt=hp_t2News conference at 11:45 Wednesday.If it's any indication which way they are going, Obama will be joined on stage by several school children who wrote letters to Obama telling him they are scared of guns.There's no way this won't end well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CephasGT Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 That's disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 ugh...This is ridiculous. Where are all these wacko's against guns. I almost think it's 90% media driven. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLSk_BjGuo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 I wanted to revisit those polls and see where they ended up:Should the Assault Weapons Ban Be Reinstated? 1.89% Yes 98.11% No Should Teachers Be Armed? 83.16% Yes 16.84% No Are Video Games Too Violent? 51.34% Yes 48.66% No Should Obama Pursue Gun Control Without Congress? 19.64% Yes 80.36% No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Adam,Thank you for your email in regards to firearm ownership, regulations, and the Second Amendment. I very much appreciate you taking the time to inform me of your thoughts and concerns on this pressing matter.As your State Senator, I have always been, and will continue to be, a proponent of the Second Amendment. Thank you, again, contacting me on this important issue, and please feel free to do so in the future regarding this or any other state related matter.Sincerely,Troy BaldersonState SenatorOhio Senate District 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Email from BFAPresident also launches campaign to force Congress to renew the ban on so-called "assault weapons" and standard capacity ammunition magazinesby Chad D. BausThe Weekly Standard is reporting that the proposals President Obama and Vice President Biden are putting in place in the wake of the horrific events in Newtown, CT contains a mix of executive actions, regulations, and calls for Congress to act legislatively.The total package, which includes forcing the taxpayers to foot the bill for anti-gun rights research, will cost at least $4.5 billion in new spending.From the article:Among the new spending the president proposed:• $4 billion for the president's proposal "to help keep 15,000 cops on the streets in cities and towns across the country." (That is roughly $266,000 per police officer.)• $20 million to "give states stronger incentives to make [relevant] data available [for background checks] … "$50 million for this purpose in FY2014"• "$14 million to help train 14,000 more police officers and other public and private personnel to respond to active shooter situations."• "$10 million for the Centers for Disease Control to conduct further research, including investigating the relationship between video games, media images, and violence."• $20 million to expand the National Violent Death Reporting System.• $150 million to "put up to 1,000 new school resource officers and school counselors on the job."• "$30 million of one-time grants to states to help their school districts develop and implement emergency management plans."• $50 million to help 8,000 schools "create safer and more nurturing school climates."• $15 million to "provide 'Mental Health First Aid' training for teachers."• $40 million for school districts to "work with law enforcement, mental health agencies, and other local organizations to assure students with mental health issues or other behavioral issues are referred to the services they need."• $25 million for state-based strategies that support "young people ages 16 to 25 with mental health or substance abuse issues."• $25 million to "offer students mental health services for trauma or anxiety, conflict resolution programs, and other school-based violence prevention strategies."• $50 million to "train social workers, counselors, psychologists, and other mental health professionals."Among the executive actions signed are directions instructing doctors on how to inquire about the guns their patients have in their homes and how to report threats of violence to law enforcement, reports on so-called "smart gun" technology, funding for anti-gun rights research and more.The entire list of the actions Mr. Obama is taking is provided by the The Washington Times:1. Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.4. Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.5. Propose rule-making to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).9. Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.10. Release a Department of Justice report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.11. Nominate a new director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.12. Provide law enforcement, first-responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.14. Issue a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.15. Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun-safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors from asking their patients about guns in their homes.17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school-resource officers.19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.22. Commit to finalizing mental-health parity regulations.23. Launch a national dialogue led by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Education Secretary Arne Duncan on mental health.As it is with most things in federal government, the devil will be found in the details of these new orders.Until those details are revealed, here are a few notes to consider:Background checks1) Every piece of federal legislation introduced since at least 2004, dealing with "background checks" has actually been a bill to abolish gun shows, and have had little to nothing to do with background checks. These draconian proposals have included making every gun show vendor registered 30+ days in advance (even the hotdog vendor?), providing reports back to ATF about all the gun transactions, etc. The proposals have always amounted to gun registration and killing gun shows. Never have they talked about just background checks, so why should gun owners listen?2) President Clinton, as part of the original gun control push in the early '90s, decimated the ranks of Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) trying to renew - by 2003 the number of FFLs was down to 23% of what had been. If you want background checks, why eliminate the people required to perform them? Bottom line - it was "gun control" under Clinton that caused a large number of sellers at gun shows to suddenly be unable to run background checks.3) Gun ban extremists keep throwing around a statistic claiming that 40% of guns sales happen without a background check. But where does anyone keep track of non-background check sales? Nowhere. This statistic is nothing but a guess - made to sound scary so it will play well in the media.Protecting childrenIf we get to the point of having universal background checks, we should be able to protect our children in New York, Maryland, CT, CA, etc. etc. There could be no possible objection to us carrying a gun in those states now, right?Magazine capacityWhy do the gun ban extremists think that it would somehow be more acceptable to have children murdered if killer has to reload 3 or 4 times (which the Connecticut killer did)?So-called "Assault" Weapons BansWe've tried every version of this. These bans did nothing to prevent Columbine, Jonesboro, Paducah, Newtown, or many others. At what point do we get to say that this dog don't hunt?Resource officersWe have another name for them: "Designated targets." 1,000 doesn't even cover half of Ohio, and these jobs have been and will be the first to go when budgets are cut."Gun violence" researchThere is no such thing as gun violence. There is only violence. Instead of using taxpayer money on one-sided research intentionally designed to provide talking points for gun ban proponents, this money would be much better spent researching the effects of violent media on mental health, etc.Chad D. Baus is the Buckeye Firearms Association Vice Chairman.FLASHBACK 2009: Will Health Care Reform Regulate Guns?UPDATE: More of the President's gun control agenda is contained in a list he sent to Congress:Require criminal background checks for all gun sales.Reinstate and strengthen the assault weapons ban.Restore the 10-round limit on ammunition magazines.Protect police by finishing the job of getting rid of armor-piercing bullets.Give law enforcement additional tools to prevent and prosecute gun crime.End the freeze on gun violence research.Media Coverage:Columbus Dispatch - Reactions to Obama’s gun-violence plan push toward extremesMany gun owners would have supported universal background checks before now, but the bills that seemed to call for them always were drafted with ulterior motives, said Ken Hanson, legal chairman of the Buckeye Firearms Association."It has very little to do with background checks, and it has everything to do with shutting down gun shows," he said.He said the assault-style-weapons ban that expired in 2004 did not reduce crime. And having to reload more often won't stop a deranged killer, he said.WBNS (CBS Columbus) -WCMH (NBC Columbus) - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 From kasichDear Adam:Like all Americans, I was horrified as the tragedies of Friday, December 14th unfolded in Newtown, Connecticut. The deplorable act of violence that took the lives of innocent children and adults is beyond reason, and I pray that, in time, the families of the victims and the people of that community are able to find peace.As you no doubt recall, we were all reminded of the evil that exists in our world when six students were shot, three fatally, at Chardon High School in Geauga County on February 27th, 2012. In the aftermath, the heroic stories of the first responders, teachers and staff who acted swiftly and selflessly to protect others showed true courage.Since that tragic event, and in the wake of the recent tragedy in Newtown, the absolute necessity for school officials, parents, students and first responders to be trained and practiced in responding to these unthinkable crimes is of utmost importance. Various state and local agencies, including the Ohio Office of Homeland Security and the Ohio Department of Education, have worked collaboratively to implement, review and drill response plans. Moreover, these occasions of violence and heartache should give us all pause to think about how we treat each other, and the value we as a society place upon every life.With regard to calls for legislation in response to these events, it is my belief that we will be best served by enforcing those laws that currently exist. And, in the weeks and months that follow, we should learn as much as possible about how this happened, and what steps we can take, including mental health awareness and school safety protocols, to guard against the senseless loss of innocent life ever again.I appreciate your taking the time to write. Please join me and my family in continuing to keep the communities of Chardon and Newtown, and all innocent victims of violence, in our prayers. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think we will be just fine here in Ohio, Kasich will fight and "not implement" anything unnecessary, and he fully believes in and respects the Constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzer Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 details of bill from today's release: http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/24/politics/feinstein-bill-details/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 A gun rack... a gun rack. I don't even own *a* gun, let alone many guns that would necessitate an entire rack. What am I gonna do with a gun rack? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 2 of my rifles made the specific list, i am somewhat.... honored?fwiw, the FN 5.7 didn't make the list. man are they fucking retarded or what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CephasGT Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 They went to the trouble of including the Hi-Point Carbine? Now that's funny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 5.7 are only used when bullying at the workplace leads to erratic behavior..... Not acts of terrorism or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprez55 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 details of bill from today's release: http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/24/politics/feinstein-bill-details/index.htmllol, I was doubtful this would pass when it was rumored, but now I am certain it won't. I will literally eat the printed words on this page if it does. It is so outlandish and rediculous that I don't even want justify it with a rebuttal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Hope you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted January 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 They list the Norinco 56S (AK-style) but not the Norinco 56 (SKS). Now, my SKS has the tapco conversion with pistol grip and 20rd duckbill mags, so that makes it illegal unless grandfathered.It's all bullshit anyway. Think how long it takes to get legislation in, then think how long it takes entrepreneurial Americans to slide past the ban for a quick buck.THE BIG QUESTION>>>> The wording is that grandfathered weapons are exempt from the bill - does that mean they can still be sold/transferred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprez55 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Scruit: I thought it covered that and said that all grandfathered guns would need background checks to sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 They list the Norinco 56S (AK-style) but not the Norinco 56 (SKS). Now, my SKS has the tapco conversion with pistol grip and 20rd duckbill mags, so that makes it illegal unless grandfathered.It's all bullshit anyway. Think how long it takes to get legislation in, then think how long it takes entrepreneurial Americans to slide past the ban for a quick buck.THE BIG QUESTION>>>> The wording is that grandfathered weapons are exempt from the bill - does that mean they can still be sold/transferred?If they are excluded then they should be able to be sold or transferred. There is no telling if/until the bill is passed. I don't see it passing as written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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