New House bills related to firearms 2013

[ReconRat]

Here's the list from the first day (Jan3,2013):

H.R. 21: To provide for greater safety in the use of firearms. (name changed to : NRA Members’ Gun Safety Act of 2013)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/11....

3% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 34: To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/11....

1% chance of getting past committee.

0% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 35: To restore safety to America’s schools. Rep. Steve Stockman [R-TX36]

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr35

6% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 65: To prevent children’s access to firearms.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/11....

1% chance of getting past committee.

0% chance of being enacted.

H.R.93 : To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to restrict the ability of a person whose Federal license to import, manufacture, or deal in firearms has been revoked, whose application to renew such a license has been denied, or who has received a license revocation or renewal denial notice, to transfer business inventory firearms, and for other purposes.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/11....

3% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 117: To provide for the mandatory licensing and registration of handguns.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/11....

3% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 133: To repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 and amendments to that Act. Rep. Thomas Massie [R-KY4] http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr133

6% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 137: To ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the national instant criminal background check system and require a background check for every firearm sale.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/11....

1% chance of getting past committee.

0% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 138: To prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and for other purposes.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/11....

3% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 141: To require criminal background checks on all firearms transactions occurring at gun shows.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/11....

1% chance of getting past committee.

0% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 142: To require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/11....

1% chance of getting past committee.

0% chance of being enacted.

H.J.Res. 15: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, (term limits)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hjres15

0% chance of getting past committee.

0% chance of being enacted or passed.

New after the Obama speech on Jan16:

H.R. 238: Fire Sale Loophole Closing Act - To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to restrict the ability of a person whose Federal license to...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr238

3% chance of getting past committee.

0% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 236: Crackdown on Deadbeat Gun Dealers Act of 2013 - To ensure greater accountability by licensed firearms dealers.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr236

3% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 321: To amend the Continuing Appropriations Resolution, 2013 (Public Law 112-175) to permit research on firearms safety and ...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr321

3% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 93: Fire Sale Loophole Closing Act

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr93

3% chance of getting past committee.

0% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 226: Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr226

3% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

H.R. 227: Buyback Our Safety Act - Gun buyback grant.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr227

3% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

More bills introduced week Jan21-25.

S. 54: A bill to increase public safety by punishing and deterring firearms trafficking.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s54

8% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

S. 34: A bill to increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of firearms and explosives licenses to known or suspected dangerous terrorists.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s34

10% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

H.Res. 40: Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that active duty military personnel who are stationed or residing in the District of Columbia should be permitted to exercise fully their rights under the Second Amendment to the ConstitutionRep. Phil Gingrey [R-GA11]

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hres40

6% chance of getting past committee.

6% chance of being agreed to.

H.R. 404: To enhance criminal penalties for straw purchasers of firearms.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr404

3% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

Feinstein's AWB Senate bill:

S. 150: A bill to regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes. Text here and here.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s150

(Sent straight to committee, initially slightly less then average chances)

10% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

McCartney's AWB House bill:

H.R. 437: Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 - Text here and here.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr437

3% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

All are introduced by Democrats except HR35, HR133 & HR134. Sponsor states are TXx2, RIx4, NJ, VA, NYx5, IL, CT, FL, CA and MA. (needs updated)

Some day somebody will do something stupid with a motorcycle, and this is probably what we should expect for a response in congress.

edit: Moved the percentages to each house and senate bill. I'll try to keep them updated.

update jan5, 2013; added HR133

update jan09, 2013; added JHR15; added HR35

update jan13, 2013; 6% chance dropped to 3% chance.

update jan19, 2013; Name of resolution added on most (see each for details). In response to Obama's speech, added new HR238, HR236, HR231, HR93, HR226, HR142, & HR227. All introduced by democrats.

update jan24, 2013; Added new S54, S34, HR40 & HR404.

update jan25, 2013; added Feinstein AWB S150.

update feb05, 2013; added McCarthy AWB HR437. Updated percentages. Several are now zero chance.

update jan26, 2013; added extra page to continue... go here: http://www.ohioriders.net/showthread.php?p=954939&posted=1#post954939

Continued here...

Edited February 5, 2013 by ReconRat
update

[Gump]

Where do you see the details of the bill?

[ReconRat]

  Gump said:

Where do you see the details of the bill?

You have to wait. This website uses the Library of Congress as a source. The text of the bills isn't available yet. It should be on the govtrack.us website when it becomes available. Maybe slightly sooner at the Library of Congress.

If you click on "view on THOMAS" right below where it says TEXT, it will show whether the Library of Congress has received the information from the GPO (Government Printing Office) yet. If it has, it will be available there also.

[Pokey]

Executive order will happen........"done deal IMHO". I also believe that we will be seeing martial law going into effect as well. And to those that think I am crackers for believing this......just you wait and see.

[ReconRat]

  Pokey said:

Executive order will happen........"done deal IMHO". I also believe that we will be seeing martial law going into effect as well. And to those that think I am crackers for believing this......just you wait and see.

I thought that was only possible if it made it to the Senate. Not sure.

edit: Executive orders are of various types and a rather grey area of law. Basic interpretation is "...but it vests the power to execute the instructions of Congress, which has the exclusive power to make laws;..."

(Article Two Section 1 Clause 1 of the United States Constitution)

Edited January 4, 2013 by ReconRat

[Pokey]

  ReconRat said:

I thought that was only possible if it made it to the Senate. Not sure.

edit: Executive orders are of various types and a rather grey area of law. Basic interpretation is "...but it vests the power to execute the instructions of Congress, which has the exclusive power to make laws;..."

(Article Two Section 1 Clause 1 of the United States Constitution)

The Constitution is on its way out, and BHO is very aware of the grey area. He will be using his full weight as the Commander in Chief, and it is gonna be heavy.

[OsuMj]

I feel like they should be focusing on budget cuts.

[4DAIVI PAI2K5]

  OsuMj said:

I feel like they should be focusing on budget cuts.

"LOL"

Thats what they think of the budget

[jbot]

  OsuMj said:

I feel like they should be focusing on budget cuts.

i just hope that when they do budget cut themselves, it'll be down the street to get the job done, instead of across the street like some sad goth cry for help.

[ReconRat]

  OsuMj said:

I feel like they should be focusing on budget cuts.

Actually, at least 9 house resolutions (HJR1, HJR2, HJR6, HJR11) asking for a balanced budget were introduced on the first day, and all show 32% chance of getting past committee, and 22% chance of passing house vote. I haven't checked them all.

edit: err, govtrack.us website just went down. I didn't do it, don't look at me.

edit: Found 9 house resolutions. Most are introduced by Republicans. One asks for balanced budget in constitution. 0% chance. One asks for ratification of budget by a number of states. 0% chance. And one from a Democrat actually asked for an increase in debt limit if revenues go down...

Edited January 5, 2013 by ReconRat

[Gump]

  OsuMj said:

I feel like they should be focusing on budget cuts.

Agree, Below was my last letters to Brown, Portman, Johnson, and Obama

I would like to know if you will protect the 2nd Amendment? I do not wish

to hear political ramblings. As a sportsman, property owner, business

owner, registered voter, taxpayer, and father, I humbly suggest you focus

on the budget.

[jblosser]

  OsuMj said:

I feel like they should be focusing on budget cuts.

i agree, but:

can you have budget cuts if there hasn't been a budget passed during DearLeader's reign?

(for you mouth breathers, the above is a rhetorical question).

[ReconRat]

  jblosser said:

i agree, but:

can you have budget cuts if there hasn't been a budget passed during DearLeader's reign?

(for you mouth breathers, the above is a rhetorical question).

In the real world (law), no.

In the fantasy world (policy), yes.

Budget and debt (and revenues) are wildly different when viewed by law vs policy.

Law is what is actually going to happen, per laws enacted.

Policy is the expectation of what might happen, per guessing and wishful thinking.

[swingset]

Why focus on governance and the tedious business of fiscal responsibility when you can grandstand and pander, and oh....ancillary benefit....chip away at civil liberties while you're at it?

[TSB67]

Totally random sleep-deprived thought: if Sarah Palin was president we wouldn't have to worry about any of this crap. Doesn't sound so bad now, huh?

Has any other potential D.C. politician been this pro-gun?

http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Sarah_Palin_Gun_Control.htm

[ReconRat]

Most of the bills have dropped from 6% chance to 3% chance.

Most of the text of the bills is available to read now.

Nothing really new except the two bills to repeal "school safety zones".

[jporter12]

  ReconRat said:

Most of the bills have dropped from 6% chance to 3% chance.

Most of the text of the bills is available to read now.

Nothing really new except the two bills to repeal "school safety zones".

How is the chance percentages figured?

[ReconRat]

  jporter12 said:

How is the chance percentages figured?

They explain that, and I haven't read much of it. But it's mostly historical averages. Anything that goes to committee usually never comes back. On the average, only 4% of house bills introduced ever become law.

Bill Prognosis Analysis and Methodology

http://www.govtrack.us/about/analysis#prognosis

[ReconRat]

update: Added seven new house resolutions after Obama speech. Now 19 total.

Odds changed on many, some up, most down. Six are now zero chance.

[cOoTeR]

Are said percentages reliable? Or are they put out to calm the people into thinking everything is ok?

[ReconRat]

  cOoTeR said:

Are said percentages reliable? Or are they put out to calm the people into thinking everything is ok?

There's a link on the webpage that describes how the percentages are calculated.

Basically, hardly anything ever gets out of committee or becomes law.

So those basic attributes are applied to all.

And for the most part, reasonably reliable.

If that changes, the percentage will change also.

Here's the webpage that details the methodology:

http://www.govtrack.us/about/analysis#prognosis

Edited January 21, 2013 by ReconRat

[ReconRat]

Here, try this. This is a civil rights law against groups targeting people trying to exercise legal and constitutional rights. But I wouldn't be surprised if it could be applied against any group that got out of control in targeting others.

Conspiracy Against Rights (18 USC 241)

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured — They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

Good luck trying to arrest hysterical congressmen and senators. I rather think they would vanish and be very hard to find. Somebody needs to build a case against them for "conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate". I rather imagine they already know the fine line they walk.

[mojOH]

H.R. 226: Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act

FULL TITLE

To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a credit against tax for surrendering to authorities certain assault weapons.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr226

3% chance of getting past committee.

1% chance of being enacted.

EDIT: just saw you had it at the tail end of your first post. Guy at work pointed this out to me today. Frightening that someone would use the IRS for such things.

[Scruit]

  ReconRat said:

Here, try this. This is a civil rights law against groups targeting people trying to exercise legal and constitutional rights. But I wouldn't be surprised if it could be applied against any group that got out of control in targeting others.

Conspiracy Against Rights (18 USC 241)

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured — They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

Good luck trying to arrest hysterical congressmen and senators. I rather think they would vanish and be very hard to find. Somebody needs to build a case against them for "conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate". I rather imagine they already know the fine line they walk.

I think you're reading it wrong. I think it's supposed to stop people from interfering with other people's constitutional rights, and it's worded ambiguously.

Better wording would be:

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in order to to prevent the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;

[motozachl]

With all these FACTS of nothing will happen we still have all these headless chickens running around