If there was someone who know the area and the route as well as I do I would make 2 groups. With the number of bikes and nobody I'm really sure knows the route that I have planned, I think it would be best to have a relaxed ride. We will talk things over at the Ledges. I just don't want anyone to get there hopes up. I've never led a group this large so I am going to be cautious. Staying in the group should be easy enough because I'm avoiding most of the main roads and keeping to the back country roads. Some main roads will have to be ridden but I always keep them to a minimum. Just like freeways, I tend to avoid them. There are some places, like where I had my wife take the pic of me on Chagrin River rd, that some good action shots can be had. We'll talk that over also. Also the first road heading east, Rapids Rd., has some nice sweepers to get some pics of the riders. We'll figure something out. I just don't want to dissapoint anyone taking to long, or not making all the sights.