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^^This, you just don't see open carry around cleveland at all so most are shocked and set back by it.

No no license need to open carry in public. But you are not allowed to carry in a car or on a bike. Only in public where there is no sign posted. So yes you are allowed to walk down the street with a loaded gun in plain sight in a holster with no license of any kind.

You don't work for them LOL they make a good product is what you meant to say gump?

Yeah you don't live near cleveland chebby. I would say it is a bad idea if not in a group of people who know their rights pretty well. A police officer that does not know the laws about open carry or concealed carry for that matter is the norm in cleveland. Most I have came across are not very up to date on the laws. If you plan to do it, it's your right to do so. Just make sure you have the time to research your rights and know them before you go playing cowboy.

Miller sucks LOL Buy Red.

Piss on miller Midget LOL! Buy the lincoln keeps me busy at work making the consumables for it. LOL! Man is that stuff pricey! You are local to cleveland? if so pm me with what you are interested in from lincoln I will see if I can do anything on the price for ya. Not promising anything on specific models they have discounts to employees but only on over stock items.

^^Not the pain pills I have they work pretty good!

Get back in formation Jbot your only a member pledge.

When and where I am off work and bored as hell. Let me know.

Have fun concealing that brick on your skinny frame jstump.

Could try my lc9 if you like let me know when you guys are going shooting next im still off work.

Saw that But I am not looking to buy today and with only three he will sell out before I am ready to buy.

I shoot my lc9 just about as good as my xd. I looked at the kahr cw9 almost bought one of those over the ruger. As Uncle Tod said the 26 is not a sub compact and no easier to conceal then a 19. The walthers single stack 9mm is nice also think it's the pps? but pricey .

Trade for?

So I might just get one of these to do my build instead I know spikes makes good stuff. and that is the lowest price I have seen on this lower. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1STSLZOMBIE&name=Spike's+Tactical+Multi.+Cal.+Zombie+AR+Receiver&groupid=11

If this is gonna be for summer carry why are you looking at to true sub compacts and to larger models? I would say that it would be a lot easier to conceal a kahr or the keltec, or a lc9 maybe a db9? Thats why I use my xd9sc in the winter and my lc9 will be for summer carry. Much easier to conceal a single stack.

How would you use a iwb in a one piece race leather? I use to pocket carry my tcp in the inside pocket.

Keltec or kahr easier to conceal

No I ride to work a lot but with out my gun. Long rides I wear leathers so kinda hard to use a holster with a one piece.

^ this mine is always locked up. And my two carry guns would be my gtg in case of a break in.

Yeah ten is a good number for one rifle that is what I want. I figure 300 rounds loaded into mags is good enough for one fire fight LOL! But since I only have one rifle more then 10 kinda seems over the top.

Why 20-30 mags? I have like 4 lol. I do want to pick up some of these also since all I have is the steel GI mags for now. But I think 6 will do me fine.

Not me I don't ride anymore lol. So as for the holster I keep mine in my tank bag. I have a old uncle mikes holster that's velcroed into my bag stays put. But like I said the one or two times a year I ride on the long rides I don't leave my bike much if at all. And I can't have a gun at work so when I ride to work the gun stays at home.

Got my fat Tuesday donuts this morning.

Tonik has never ridden with us who stops while they ride? Lol