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I did have fun at the trackday. But after 10 years of exploring every back road in SE OH, WV, and VA this is this is the type of ride I look forward to most: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/flashback/122_0911_the_pace_nick_ienatsch/index.html I may do another track day. I will definitely be on lots more group rides. To each their own.

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I would agree that the track is a good place to learn. And the instruction at the track is VERY good information. However, this notion that the track is the ONLY place to learn proper riding technique is just incorrect. Sorry. I have been fortunate enough to ride with some ACE riders over the years. I have picked their brains on many occasions. The stuff I have learned at gas stops and by following their lines through technical backroads has been priceless. And it happens to be the same information taught at trackdays. There are no top secret riding instructions that you can ONLY hear by going to a track. The same information is available in many books, sportrider.com, and in the heads of countless riders who are more than willing to share. This is in no way a slam on trackdays or formal instruction, just pointing out that the same information is available from multiple sources. Now, if accelerating at WOT out of corners and hard braking into corners is what gets your blood pumping, I will agree that that type of ridng should be confined to a closed course. Straight line speed just isn't my thing. I am more interested in smoothly, carrying quick corner speeds while using proper cornering technique. While not for everyone, it can be safely accompished on the street. I know many highly skilled riders that have been doing this type of riding for years. If you can get the right type of group together with strong ride leaders this type of riding is great fun. If you're curious, we do plenty of 300-400-500 miles rides every year. Lots of skills overlap between riding street and track, however there are some notable differences. Being quick on the track does not automatically mean you will be a fast street rider (the opposite is also true). I have encountered more than a few experienced track riders that for whatever reason, just were not comfortable at the front of the 'fast' group on a street ride. In fairness, I also know plenty of track riders that are fantastic street riders.

Come on a 500 mile ride with thousands of curves and just a few stops. that will wear your ass out :-)

I am not king shit on either one. I just like covering lots of miles. I doubt I'll ever do it, but the thing on the track that would be interesting for me would be the long-ass endurance races.

I've had this conversation a few times before. All I can say is too each their own. I think aggressive riding on the street is just a slightly different set of skills, and not for everyone. Different lines, line of sight, etc. I would say I typically carry more corner speed on a street ride than I did at the KTM day. No doubt, some of that was due to riding a KTM that didn't belong to me, but the KTM was actually pretty similiar to my 1125R. Again, I thought the track was fun, I just didn't get the 'bug.'

I hear you. But after 10 years and somewhere around 100k miles of group riding at hyper legal speeds. I've only gotten 3 tickets. It's all about where you speed. I generally don't speed on the interstate or in towns, but on a twisty backroad it's game on

I did a KTM day at Mid OH last year. Loved the bike, and the track was definitely fun but I just didn't get the track 'bug.' I may do another trackday, but I prefer a 4-500 mile day in SE OH or WV. Tickets are cheaper than trackdays anyway.

Who's going to make the sammiches?

IMO. I am not trying to draw attention. No one ever needs to know that I am carrying unless a situation presents itself when a weapon is necessary. The only times I would consider OC would be something like camping/hiking/hunting.

College Basketball>College Football Poop>NCAA

EBR would want him over Geoff May.

so much win

From: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/12/07/week.13/index.html Honest answer, Browns fans: Were 1996-97-98, the years Cleveland had no NFL team, much, much worse than the ensuing 13 seasons?

Someone needs to step up...fine I'll do it

I remember when Col. Blake died

In a self defense situation that would be a great way to launch a projectile right into the back of your hand. Pass.

Most of the time bears will want nothing to do with you.

Z750s are good bikes, they are just not that well known in the US. I took awhile to sell mine, but I eventually got what I wanted for it.

It creates jobs, maybe a lot of jobs.

You can almost hear teeth...ewww.

That's not a bad price on the turbo. I understand they are fairly collectable.