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chevysoldier

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  1. Okay. I have notice some people being confused on firearm storage in a vehicle while in possession of a CHL.

    http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.16

    2923.16 Improperly handling firearms in a motor vehicle.

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    (E) No person who has been issued a license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun under section 2923.125 or 2923.1213 of the Revised Code shall do any of the following:

    (1) Knowingly transport or have a loaded handgun in a motor vehicle unless one of the following applies:

    (a) The loaded handgun is in a holster on the person’s person.

    (b) The loaded handgun is in a closed case, bag, box, or other container that is in plain sight and that has a lid, a cover, or a closing mechanism with a zipper, snap, or buckle, which lid, cover, or closing mechanism must be opened for a person to gain access to the handgun.

    © The loaded handgun is securely encased by being stored in a closed glove compartment or vehicle console or in a case that is locked.

    (2) If the person is transporting or has a loaded handgun in a motor vehicle in a manner authorized under division (E)(1) of this section, knowingly remove or attempt to remove the loaded handgun from the holster, case, bag, box, container, or glove compartment, knowingly grasp or hold the loaded handgun, or knowingly have contact with the loaded handgun by touching it with the person’s hands or fingers while the motor vehicle is being operated on a street, highway, or public property unless the person removes, attempts to remove, grasps, holds, or has the contact with the loaded handgun pursuant to and in accordance with directions given by a law enforcement officer;

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    (K) As used in this section:

    (1)”Motor vehicle,” “street,” and “highway” have the same meanings as in section 4511.01 of the Revised Code.

    (2)”Occupied structure” has the same meaning as in section 2909.01 of the Revised Code.

    (3) “Agriculture” has the same meaning as in section 519.01 of the Revised Code.

    (4)”Tenant” has the same meaning as in section 1531.01 of the Revised Code.

    (5)”Unloaded” means any of the following:

    (a) No ammunition is in the firearm in question, and no ammunition is loaded into a magazine or speed loader that may be used with the firearm in question and that is located anywhere within the vehicle in question, without regard to where ammunition otherwise is located within the vehicle in question. For the purposes of division (K)(5)(a) of this section, ammunition held in stripper-clips or in en-bloc clips is not considered ammunition that is loaded into a magazine or speed loader.

    (b) With respect to a firearm employing a percussion cap, flintlock, or other obsolete ignition system, when the weapon is uncapped or when the priming charge is removed from the pan.

    (6) “Commercial motor vehicle” has the same meaning as in division (A) of section 4506.25 of the Revised Code.

    (7) “Motor carrier enforcement unit” means the motor carrier enforcement unit in the department of public safety, division of state highway patrol, that is created by section 5503.34 of the Revised Code.

    Amended by 128th General Assembly File No. 9, HB 1, § 101.01, eff. 10/16/2009.

    Effective Date: 04-08-2004; 03-14-2007; 2008 SB209 06-25-2008; 2008 SB184 09-09-2008

  2. MDT (computer) = pops up in red and says it (it actually speaks and says "concealed weapon permit") when checking plates. Over the radio = Signal 33 (for us, I'm sure thats not universal) dispatchers are to advise of a weapon permit as soon as they receive it, even if we already saw it on the MDT.

    Either way I'm not worried about the people who openly advise of a weapon in the vehicle and are trained and licensed in the proper care and handling of it - its the ones that don't say anything and try to hide it that cause the problems.

    I know of some, and I'm not gonna list which departments, it pops up WANTED PERSON. Some computers will even say it also. Then they click on that and it will inform the officer of the CHL.

  3. What you posted states to stay in the right lane unless turning left, passing someone, or when staying on route requires that lane.

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    (B)(1) Upon all roadways any vehicle or trackless trolley proceeding at less than the prevailing and lawful speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, and far enough to the right to allow passing by faster vehicles if such passing is safe and reasonable, except under any of the following circumstances:

    (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle or trackless trolley proceeding in the same direction ;

    (b) When preparing for a left turn;

    © When the driver must necessarily drive in a lane other than the right-hand lane to continue on the driver’s intended route.

  4. http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4511.25

    4511.25 Lanes of travel upon roadways of sufficient width.

    (A) Upon all roadways of sufficient width, a vehicle or trackless trolley shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:

    (1) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or when making a left turn under the rules governing such movements;

    (2) When an obstruction exists making it necessary to drive to the left of the center of the highway; provided, any person so doing shall yield the right of way to all vehicles traveling in the proper direction upon the unobstructed portion of the highway within such distance as to constitute an immediate hazard;

    (3) When driving upon a roadway divided into three or more marked lanes for traffic under the rules applicable thereon;

    (4) When driving upon a roadway designated and posted with signs for one-way traffic;

    (5) When otherwise directed by a police officer or traffic control device.

    (B)(1) Upon all roadways any vehicle or trackless trolley proceeding at less than the prevailing and lawful speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, and far enough to the right to allow passing by faster vehicles if such passing is safe and reasonable, except under any of the following circumstances:

    (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle or trackless trolley proceeding in the same direction ;

    (b) When preparing for a left turn;

    © When the driver must necessarily drive in a lane other than the right-hand lane to continue on the driver’s intended route.

    (2) Nothing in division (B)(1) of this section requires a driver of a slower vehicle to compromise the driver’s safety to allow overtaking by a faster vehicle.

    © Upon any roadway having four or more lanes for moving traffic and providing for two-way movement of traffic, no vehicle or trackless trolley shall be driven to the left of the center line of the roadway, except when authorized by official traffic control devices designating certain lanes to the left of the center of the roadway for use by traffic not otherwise permitted to use the lanes, or except as permitted under division (A)(2) of this section.

    This division shall not be construed as prohibiting the crossing of the center line in making a left turn into or from an alley, private road, or driveway.

    (D) Except as otherwise provided in this division, whoever violates this section is guilty of a minor misdemeanor. If, within one year of the offense, the offender previously has been convicted of or pleaded guilty to one predicate motor vehicle or traffic offense, whoever violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor of the fourth degree. If, within one year of the offense, the offender previously has been convicted of two or more predicate motor vehicle or traffic offenses, whoever violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor of the third degree.

    Effective Date: 01-01-2004; 09-21-2006

    Doesn't say the left lane is for passing only, or am I missing it? That being said, I don't run the left lane except to pass.

  5. I pride myself on my ability to keep the cage on my side of the double-asian. I know there are retards on both sides of this coin' date=' but I can honestly say that riding a motorcycle has improved my awareness and discipline when driving my car.[/quote']

    I'd agree with you. I pay more attention in the car since I started riding and drive safer overall. Not saying I don't make mistakes or anything, but it has definitely helped me out.

  6. With a 22 the fun factor isn't there with a bolt action or single shot. But slapping a 30 rnd mag in one and going at it is a blast.

    This^. I've shot kawi's 10/22 and it's a great little rifle. I forget what Max Power picked up, but his shoots dead on with the scope. He was making smiley faces the size a a quarter at a decent range.

  7. I'm pretty sure that they know already that you have a CCW by running the plates for your vehicle, and you can be cited for not notifying them that you are carrying. My brother is a PO, and his theory is that if they have a CCW, and are cool / calm then he will be the same right back to the person.

    If they have a computer in their car, they already know you have a CHL when they run your plate. If they call it in to dispatch to run in, not sure if that is some of the info they would relay.

    My experience with ccw has been of one, they don't care. Two, he got a little pissy because I didn't tell him I had a permit but that's because I didn't have a gun with me and forgot. At the same time the plates arn't registered to me so untill he goes back to the car and runs my license he doesn't know.

    If you don't have a loaded gun on you, you don't have to inform them of your CHL status.

    I have only had one instance. When I first got my CCL. Probably 2-3 months after the fact. I was driving from Pataskala to Zanesville everyday for work. I had a Glock and a 1911. Could not hit the side of the barn if I was standing inside of it with the Glock, so I always opted for the 1911.

    Got dinged for speeding on I-70. Trooper come walking up to the door, I had the window down already with both hands on the steering wheel. He asked for my License and registration, I handed him my CCL first, in one hand and told him it is on the passenger seat. Then handed him my license and registration and proof of ins with the other hand and placed them back on the wheel. He chuckled and told me to relax. rest of the conv. went like this...

    is it loaded... YES.

    What is it and where exactly is it... It is a Kimber Grand raptor laying on the pass. seat barrel facing the pass rear door, so it is easy to grab.

    Kind of large caliber for a concealed weapon isn't it? Not really, I dont like to shoot more than once.

    "The look on his face was priceless"! I told him, Clint Smith, stated "he carries a .45 becuase they dont make a .46"... :D with a smile of course.

    I informed him I carry custom loaded HP's that I worked up in the gun and then carry full power semi wad cutters in another mag in my back pocket.

    Why would you need the other mag? better to be prepared than sorry you did not have it. What if one mag is not enough? They AR is in the trunk if I need it in the pelican, under my golf clubs. he chuckled and said sure it was. I asked if he would like to see it. he said sure (cheap ploy from a trooper to search your car, but I have nothing to hide). I opened the trunk and moved my golf clubs, told him he could open the case and he insisted I did it. So I did. He looked at me when I opened it and said I guess you are prepared! I said Yes I am...

    he gave me my license back and my other creditials and told me to slow down and pay attention to what is on the other end of that .45 and have a nice day...

    I gave him the sure thing and a thank-you and went to work...

    Sorry, but no officer is searching my vehicle without probable cause. Glad it went well though.

  8. Glad to hear it Likwid. I got pulled over by a state trooper once. I promptly notified. He asked where, I said my right hip at 4 o'clock. He said Thanks then asked for my stuff. I told him my registration and insurance were in the glove box but my license was in my back pocket, right next to my gun He kind of chuckled and said thats fine, go ahead and get it.

    It was all a non-issue. We actually chatted for a few minutes after he gave me the warning. He asked me how often I carry and I congratulated me on being one of the few that carries 100% of the time. Very professional in how he handled everything.

    Likwid, did you get cited or let off?

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