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All good stuff. And good point with the hearing protection. I should have been more clear about not making this a regular thing. Once, maybe twice would be sufficient. And not a good idea to use a super loud gun. You could use some lower level ear plugs. I have seen people shoot without ear plugs and it scares them. Some to the point of nearly dropping the gun. Now in a life or death situation that could be a costly mistake. Thanks for the input.

Great idea. You should have a mod make the thread a sticky' date=' and include all the different links you guys gave me in the other thread.

Links are good! Here are some of the links you guys provided me...

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That's up to a mod if they want to do that or not. I'll put up more link when I get the time. Thanks for posting those up though.

Happy New Year ORDN. I'll try harder to get banned this year.

<3 u.

Oooh, it IS gonna be a good year!

You guys are in my prayers. Sad way to start the year.

FORT LEONARD WOOD, Mo. (Dec. 31, 2010) — Post spokesman Jeff Maddy announced Friday evening that a survey of damaged and destroyed housing conducted by a specialized disaster response team from Columbia found nobody trapped. Only four people were hurt on Fort Leonard Wood by the New Year’s Eve tornado and all of those injuries were minor, Maddy said.

Post officials noted that many Fort Leonard Wood servicemembers and families were away from the installation for holiday leave, and in many cases the houses destroyed by the tornado were empty. None of the injuries involved trainees. That section of the post wasn’t damaged by the tornado, Maddy said, and military training operations for both basic training and AIT are expected to resume Jan. 3.

A total of 159 homes were damaged, with 41 destroyed and 32 others with significant damage, according to an announcement posted by Col. Charles Williams, the post’s garrison commander.

The damaged areas are primarily east of Specker Barracks and Oklahoma Ave and North of Davidson Fitness Center, Williams said, and he asked people to stay out of those areas.

“Sightseeing impedes our ongoing recovery operations,” Williams said.

While a state of emergency declaration was issued by Gov. Jay Nixon noting that at least three people died due to the tornado, none of those three deaths were on Fort Leonard Wood. All four people hurt on post were transported to General Leonard Wood Army Community Hospital for treatment; none required more specialized care at larger hospitals, Maddy said.

National Weather Service officials reported that the tornado was an EF-3 tornado destroying several homes on the east side of the installation, with one home having all of its walls destroyed.

“Extensive searches of damaged areas were conducted for possible injured personnel and emergency repairs were made to ensure that all broken or downed utility lines were rendered safe. Fire and rescue workers are expected to work through the night,” Maddy said. “Initial assessments have revealed that extensive to moderate damage occurred to numerous military training areas, moderate damage occurred to installation utility systems, and extensive damage occurred in one installation family housing area. Representatives from the post’s Garrison Command and Emergency Operations Center are working diligently ensure that emergency and essential services are being provided to all families members and military personnel who live on the installation.”

Those emergency response agencies initially included not only Fort Leonard Wood personnel but also firefighters from Waynesville, St. Robert, Crocker, Richland and Doolittle, and a special emergency response team out of Columbia known as Task Force One from the Boone County Fire Protection District called in for their expertise in dealing with damaged structures.

The damage happened in an area that’s largely composed of officer and senior enlisted housing. The tornado “cut a swath through several miles of the installation from the training areas to a family housing area,” Maddy said, causing damage in its path not only to housing but also to training areas, power lines, and communication systems.

The communications systems are back up and running, Maddy said, and both electric and gas utility crews are working to restore service for those utilities throughout the post.

National Weather Service officials have released only a partial map of the path of the tornado and more work is expected tomorrow to assess damage.

Lawson Smith, Pulaski County’s director of emergency management, said the tornado entered the post around Cannon Range on the southwest end of Fort Leonard Wood where Laclede County meets Pulaski County, and then came through Fort Leonard Wood in a northeasterly direction before exiting at an angle toward Phelps County.

No major damage has been reported outside the installation, Smith said.

Holy Crap. 01 Jan and 41 y/o?

HBD? lol

"Here's to the new year...may she be a damn sight better than the old one and may we all be home before she's over."

lol

I think you made the right choice. There will always be another bike for you to buy down the line.

I get the message, but his examples and delivery are pretty sophomoric (esp. the machine gun at the fast food restaurant example). And 'self-regulation' also isn't an effective technique all the time... as shown by the recent economic collapse.

It's funny how he advocates personal responsibility, but people will still be idiots and while it's great that "the buck stops with them" -- what about the people they've injured or killed. Yea, they're responsible and have to deal with the 'punishment', but they're still alive.

He also uses the slippery slope argument... which is a logical fallacy.

Plus his political money pull for the NRA, for "freedom"... c'mon, really?

I wonder if 'Nutnfancy' has kids of his own and what kind of goobers they are (or aren't).

It's funny that you replied with what you did. I thought a lot of the same things and figured you would be one of a couple to point them out.

I'd kind of like to make this a informational thread for new or veteran gun owners to reference to. Would be great to spread some knowledge around. I've seen quite a few people posting up about wanting to get or just got their first firearm so maybe this will help.

This first video I watched all the way through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v-mxvnFLfc

This video I skipped thought but seemed like good stuff. There is 5 other parts of this series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk1VOTyo8I0

I'll add some of my own tips and rules. Please feel free to add your own stuff to help the new guys out.

-Always handle a firearm like it is loaded. Finger off trigger until ready to shoot. Pointed in a safe direction away from anything you don't want to shoot.

-When you hand a gun to someone, verify it is unloaded. When you are handed one, you should verify it is unloaded.

-Teach your children about firearms. If you get rid of the curiosity and inform them, you reduce the risk of them doing something stupid. My daughter is 3. She has been around guns all her life. She knows not to touch them at this point in time. She helps me clean them and is right with me when we shoot. When I feel she is ready, she will be shooting with me.

-Hearing protection. If you keep a gun for defense, I recommend shooting it once without hearing protection. Get used to the deafening sound and the ringing in your ears. Remember if you need to use it for an intruder, you won't have time to put in ear plugs. You need to be ready for what will happen. Don't do this with an extremely loud gun, maybe use lower level ear plugs. Also do this outdoors to minimize the sound. Remember that hearing loss is permanent so do so at your own risk.

-Shoot your ammo you use for defense. Some ammo can get expensive and many people don't like to fire the stuff they store in the gun. Just like hearing protection, you need to know what to expect. When I got my shotgun, my wife didn't want to shoot it with the 00 buck load. This is the ammo that stays in the magazine at home. I made her shoot it because I wanted her to know what the recoil will feel like if she needs to use it at home. Shoot some hollow points to make sure your handgun feeds them properly. You don't want to be in a situation where you find out your handgun doesn't like the ammo you loaded into it.

-A firearm doesn't make you invincible. You are only as good as you train. Shoot it often. Shoot from different positions. A bad guy will not stand there at exactly 50 feet and not move. You might be ducking behind a wall, laying on your side. Try different positions out. Practice in your home and know how your home is laid out, from a tactical standpoint. Of course do this with an unloaded gun and keep your finger off the trigger.

-Know what is behind what you are shooting at. This goes for range time and in defensive situations. Bullets can travel for miles and you are responsible for every single bullet you fire.

-Clean your firearms. Not only will this keep it in pristine working condition, but it helps you to understand it. Be one with the gun.

-Have the right frame of mind. I personally have a loaded sidearm on me or within a few feet 99% of the time. One time I knew I was in the wrong frame of mind. I took the magazine out and the round out of the chamber. Know yourself and what your stress levels are. Don't put yourself or others in danger because you cannot handle what's going on in your life at the moment.

I'm sure I have other stuff I'll think of later.

DISCLAIMER: The information in this post and the rest of the thread is "use at your own risk." I will not be held responsible or liable for your actions or improper use of a firearm. These are only my views and thoughts and may not be suitable for others. Please read the safety manual that came with your firearm. Remember safety first and don't shoot yourself or others.

damnit shitty. I missed it.

This article is a couple months old, but didn't see any threads about the subject. So who here is gonna volunteer?

The idea is still in the talking stage, but there's a chance that by the middle of this century, NASA will put humans on Mars - and leave them there.

http://www.huliq.com/8738/nasa-contemplates-manned-mission-mars-one-way

Well just a few more hours to go and another year will be over. May 2011 bring you all happiness and prosperity! Be safe this year and lets all make it to 2012, so we can see the end of the world of course.

This year I plan on making it through the police academy and getting on with a department. I am also aiming to be debt free this year. Other than the wife's truck, I think I can do it. Those are my two main goals this year. Anyone else have any resolutions or goals for 2011?

Hey he smiled after the touchdown! Penalty! Hockey>football.

Sorry I will not open carry. To many people freak out about it around here. Now if they see me print and know what I have under my shirt whatever. Maybe down by you cbus peeps they are more accepting of open carry but cleveland not so much.

Yeah I won't open carry up around the Cleveland area. The police there are ignorant and arrogant. Did you see the video of the guy up around you open carrying for the fourth of July? It was either this last 4th or the year before. Cops stopped him for OC'ing and he goes "There is no law against it." Female cop goes "I don't know what you think you know about the law, but we know the law."

lol nice holster you got jblosser.

The first link I sent you for buckeye firearms has a lot of laws. Places where you cannot carry are on there too.

Right now' date=' home defense. Later on possible concealed carry. Tell me a little about "open carry". What can you and can you not do?

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Basically Ohio has no law against the open carry of a handgun.

(Bottom of page 18. http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/getattachment/6cbc82c0-21e6-4db1-b6e0-545e3970ee03/2009-Concealed-Carry-Laws-Booklet.aspx)

This means anyone can put a holster on their hip with a handgun in it and walk down the streets of Columbus or into a any establishment that doesn't forbid the carry of firearms. If you open carry, the gun must be visible at all times. Don't cover it with your shirt or jacket. Also don't use one of those military style holsters that have the flap on it.

You cannot open carry into a motor vehicle. Even if it is on plain sight on you, when you get into a car or on a bike, it is considered concealed carry and you need a permit. This means you would have to unload the gun including any magazines and/or speed loaders. A semi auto with the magazine removed but still full of rounds is still a loaded firearm. Even if one is in the trunk and the other in the glove box.

Any establishment that doesn't want people carrying firearms are supposed to post a sign. This is the way the concealed carry book reads:

Signage

The law does not say precisely what language must be on the sign.

At a minimum, signs must be conspicuous and inform people that

firearms and/or concealed handguns are prohibited. However, the law

suggests that the prohibited locations post a sign that substantially

says the following:

Unless otherwise authorized by law, pursuant to the Ohio Revised Code,

no person shall knowingly possess, have under the person’s control,

convey, or attempt to convey a deadly handgun or dangerous ordnance

onto these premises.

Page 17 of the link posted earlier. My emphasis added with the bold. If a place posts a sign I won't go in unless I have to. If they want to take away my self defense, I don't give them my money.

I prefer open carry most of the time. It is easier to draw if needed and I prefer a show of force. It's also amazing how nice people become when I open carry. Before anyone jumps me, I don't OC so people are nice, that is just an observation of when I do. I also usually present a professional appearance. I won't wear baggy jeans down to my ass and a ac/dc t-shirt. If I look like a professional and know what I am doing, there are less people and police gonna mess with me.

If you are really interested, I meet with a group of people once a month who all open carry. We'll go to parks or restaurants and have a good time. You are more than welcome to come along with your wife. Like I've told others, if you wanna go out an OC, let me know, I'll go with you.

It's all personal preference if you carry concealed or open or carry at all.

Remember that carrying a sidearm brings a lot of responsibility. Just research the laws and talk with people.

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer or police officer. I am not responsible for your actions. It is your responsibility to research the laws before you decide to carry. I have only explained my views of the laws and may make mistakes.

Gump fail.

really?

I've see this guy before. Dude has mad skills.

I have one, but one of the restrictors is gone (don't ask) and would need replaced.

That was funny.

I didn't know either until I read "subtle fuck off to the police"

wuts this?

got donuts or get donuts

The only "registration" Ohio has is the paperwork that you fill out at the dealer. They don't send this information to the gov't. It stays there. At gun shows, like eggs said, there might be a dealer there so it would be the same way. Private party sales would be like me selling you a gun, either at a gun show or at my house. I ask if you're 21 or a felon and that's it. No paper work unless I want a bill of sale.

Oh and I forgot to add that I would also have to ask if you are a resident of the same state for handgun sales. I forgot about this part and another member was kind enough to bring it to my attention.