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  1. Assuming you don't actually understand what a fatwa is...

    Links?

    Google it.

    The September 11th attacks were an organized political act carried out by 19 hijackers, and organized by numerous members of al-Qaeda. Reasons for the attacks were stated before and after the attacks in several sources, including the Fatawā of Osama bin Laden
    Before the attacks, Al-Qaeda issued proclamations that provide insight into the motivations for the attacks: one was the fatwā of August 1996,[2] and a second was a shorter fatwa in February 1998.[3] Both documents appeared initially in the Arabic-language London newspaper Al-Quds Al-Arabi and they specifically mentioned support of Israel by the U.S. and the presence of the U.S. in Saudi Arabia.[2][3] After the attacks, bin Laden and al-Zawahiri have published dozens of video tapes and audio tapes, many describing the motivations for the attacks. Two particularly important publications were bin Laden's 2002 "Letter to America"[4], and a 2004 video tape by bin Laden.[5] In addition to direct pronouncements by bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, numerous political analysts have postulated motivations for the attacks.
    1996 fatwā

    Bin Laden's 1996 fatwā is entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places". This document is sometimes called the Ladenese epistle, a term derived from bin Laden's surname. It is a long piece, and complains of American activities in numerous countries. It was faxed to supporters across the world.[4]

    1998 Fatwa

    The signatories as a group were identified as the "World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders". This fatwā complains of American military presence in the Arabian Peninsula, and American support for Israel. It purports to provide religious authorization for indiscriminate killing of Americans and Jews everywhere. It appeared in February 1998 and the embassy bombings followed in August.

  2. Correct, and all good and true. But why the hell would someone want to sell without records of what they've done.

    :dunno:

    I always write up a bill of sale with the make/model/serial number. It's more to cover my ass than anything. But I have a record of sale for every gun I've ever sold.

    I have never sold a firearm. It's against my religion.

  3. Only if someone asks you who you sold it to. Good question. Let's look it up.
    Not in Ohio if they are a personal sale.

    I looked real quick and couldn't find anything that you have to keep paperwork. You're only supposed to verify they aren't a felon, yada yada. I didn't think you had to keep a bill of sale.

  4. WELCOME HOME

    SGT Justin Winebrenner

    Delaware County, OH

    Returning from Operation Iraqi Freedom

    Welcome Home:

    Sgt Justin Winebrenner

    Columbus, Ohio

    US Army

    Welcome Home Location:

    Port Columbus International Airport

    Friday, 27 August 2010@2309 hrs-(11:09 PM )

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    Bikes: McDonalds, 4250 International Gateway Dr.

    Cars: Park and go to Main Lobby Information Booth

    Port Columbus International Airport

    STAGING TIME: Friday,27 Aug 2010@2215hrs-(10:15PM )

    District #5 Ride Captain Graham Webb III is assigned this Welcome Home

    Mission. Please be on hand with his family to welcome SGT Winebrenner home.

    Mike Hamilton

    District #7 Ride Captain

    Ohio Patriot Guard Riders

  5. My intent is to not die from a centermass gun shot...
    ^^This.. and I agree with Jon' date=' as well. I have been considering purchasing some armor to keep in the safe with teh gunz. Not sure what that has to do with "intent"... or why "intent" is even being argued. What fucking country am I in, again? :nono:[/quote']

    I agree as well and have been thinking about getting some too. I guess I was saying it be more like premeditated instead of spur of the moment which would be a stiffer crime.

  6. Yeah I really don't care if it's built or not. They have a right to build there if they want to. Now if it were to come out that this was connect to the 9/11 terrorist plan, that's be something different. IIRC plans for this were in the works before 9/11?
    Doesn't matter when the thought of putting this up was either. And rather than fret about who is putting up the Mosque... Read and know... Just saying...

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-08-19/ground-zero-mosque-imam/?cid=hp:exc

    I know It doesn't matter when it was thought up. Freedom of religion protects it. But if, and it's a big if, this building is part of the 9/11 plan, it now falls under acts of war and cannot let be built. That would be my only reason of why it shouldn't be built is what I meant.

  7. that's effing retarded....

    so you're free to own as much ammunition and tools for killing as you damn well please, but you can't have a piece of protective clothing?

    is it just me or does this seem ass backwards?

    It probably has something to do with intent? If I own an full auto I might just like to shoot it. But body armor show intent to use that full auto for killing? I can't really spell out what I mean, hope it gets my point across.

  8. the question of whether it's a mosque or a denny's shouldn't matter one iota. it's private property, shut the hell up, it's none of your f*cking business.

    Yeah I really don't care if it's built or not. They have a right to build there if they want to. Now if it were to come out that this was connect to the 9/11 terrorist plan, that's be something different. IIRC plans for this were in the works before 9/11?

  9. There are many things that set this community center apart from a mosque (a more accurate word for it would be a "masjid.")

    First, there are a number of elements of the center (a swimming pool, a gym, etc) would not be allowed in a mosque. Second, non-Muslims are not allowed to eat in a mosque - in the community center, there is a restaurant open to the public. Lastly, and probably most important, a mosque is a building dedicated to worship. The community center will have a prayer room, but the building itself is not a place of worship.

    Thank you. That's why I was asking, I had no idea. JRM was quoting a site but didn't know the structure of the building.

    And my point was, even if it was ON ground zero, the Constitution still applies.

    Now, if you want to get into a discussion on secularism, we can do that too. I'd much prefer to not even have to discuss religious buildings and where they should/should not be placed. Should a Catholic church be placed next to a little kids playground? I dunno - given their history. See, the "Where is it located?" debate is just dumb.

    That's still up in the air... I don't know enough about the details to make a determination either way. I don't have any better argument than "wait and see" since I don't have experience with how these "Community Centers" work. Regardless -- it's private property and if that's what they want... then so be it. You can't discriminate against a group of people just because another group of people did you wrong.

    Where has anyone said that, "it was meant for black powder rifle defense of the redcoats."? Besides this is apples/oranges comparing where a religious building should be placed to healthcare or the Right to Bear arms. If you want to turn this into a healthcare of gun control debate we can do that, but I thought you wanted to stick to the topic?

    Skip to 5:45. She is way far left.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtkgoGY4Cm4

    I was using gun control to make a point. You said you don't know who is picking and choosing except conservative. Both the right to bear arms and freedom of religion are in the Constitution. But liberals believe one can be trampled on and the other can't. I even said it's private property and can't be kept from being built. Both issue are protected equally and should be treated as such.

    I never said they can't build there even if it was on the same site as the buildings. You gave a internet site that said it wasn't on ground zero. I was just pointing out ground zero isn't just where the twin towers stood. But somehow you took that as me saying the Constitution doesn't apply on ground zero.

  10. The Constitution is location specific?

    Huh? The article said the Coat Factory wasn't ground zero. I was just pointing out that ground zero isn't just the location of the WTC. It encompasses the damage zone. There were multiple attacks on 9/11. The WTC done was the main point of attack. That area of damage is ground zero

    It's a community center. Whatever that means. Like the guy who wrote the Cracked article points out - You don't call St. Mary's Hospital a church, just because it has a chapel in it, do you?

    That's what I am asking. Is the prayer area some little room or it the main component of the building? Yeah St. Mary's Hospital isn't a church, just because it has a chapel in it. But is a mosque a community center because it has a basketball court? I went to a my school wasn't a community center because it had a playground/ bball court on it.

    I dunno who's picking and choosing except the conservatives...

    Especially considering ORDN, I think most of the people deemed "liberal" are proud and responsible gun owners.

    See:

    In a video posted on YouTube, Adam Sharp of the St. Louis Tea Party asked Rep. Phil Hare which part of the Constitution authorizes the government to mandate that all Americans buy a private product such as health insurance. The Illinois Democrat replied, "I don't worry about the Constitution on this."

    I'm not saying a liberal can't be a proud gun owner. But the libs want to say the Constitution protects the "mosque" but on the flip side say it doesn't protect gun rights because it was meant for black powder rifle defense of the redcoats. Who's picking and choosing again?

  11. My .02.

    How did this happen? Well, basically a complacent or a complicit media helped perpetuate three ideas that are either outright lies or intellectually dishonest arguments designed to bring out the very worst in all of us.

    Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/3-reasons-the-ground-zero-mosque-debate-makes-no-sense/#ixzz0xMF8shfE

    Media is mostly liberal. Rarely are is any news given without their own twist to the story. Rarely is the news actually just the facts of the story.

    1. It’s Not at Ground Zero

    This has already been addressed by ReconRat. That area is still considered ground zero. Damage was still done at that location.

    2. It’s Not Strictly A Mosque

    What is the main component of this structure? I'm asking because I don't know. Churches have daycares in them but they are not considered a daycare.

    3. You Can’t Simultaneously Acknowledge A Right And Insist That Your Government Suppress It

    Yes it is private property and therefore cannot be kept from being built. We are supposed to have freedom of religion in this country. Of course we have a right to bear arms but that has/is being suppressed. It's funny liberals pick and choose when the Constitution should be followed.

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