I think that was used to make someone sound like an uneducated redneck. Actually, looking at his quotes, I think he meant that his argument goes round and round, since Alab admits to not being an expert, even though he has training and experience in what they are talking about, compared to someone that has no training (other than maybe what some liberal nutjob, "make love not war" professor taught him at school) and no experience. As for the so-called toture use for interrogation.... There are some things that the general population should just not know, or even be concerned with.