Sorry 'bout that. I guess I'm a political tease Some days I feel like an argument, some days not so much. Who do you believe for your facts and figures anyway? The media? Which side? Is Rush right? How about the left-leaning mainstream media? Are government published figures reliable? When it comes to all this stuff, I'm from Missouri (show me). I'd rather wait and see. I base my conclusions on what I can understand. Like I said before... ecomony declining, government programs increasing... the money has to come from somewhere. It's simplistic, but I believe you will see the trends I was talking about in the next 4 years.