As Pauly said, "Jeans are not proper street gear." Thus, the encouragement to pick up a pair of riding pants! Nothing fancy, just a pair of Joe Rocket Ballistic 7.0 riding pants... Rain proof, removable liner, knee pads, hip pads, zip all the way up (or down) the leg for airflow/easy removable/stripteases for GF a la chip'n'dales. $150 at Iron Pony. Pretty basic, but should be warm enough to extend my riding season, and, more importantly, SAFER THAN JEANS. Pauly, thanks for the encouragement & suggestion. Ha, you ever reccomended IPM, which is where I got them. So, the salesman called these particular pants "Fudge pants" when I started with XL which where huge on me. I asked if they were Overpants, and he said they were a Fudge pant, meaning you can wear them either way. Anyone confirm/deny? I went down a size to Large so I can wear them on their own, since most of my riding is in the summer, and the LAST thing I want is another layer.