Good to hear nice reviews of that 2nd shop I went to... Chad, the salesman who talked to me, was much less... elitist than the guys at State 8. He was just more approachable, too. I actually don't think I'll be doing too much 2 up riding... My GF stays INCREDIBLY busy, and I'm also a little scared that something may happen. I'm a new enough rider that I worry about my own safety and don't really want anyone riding on the back to be responsible for theirs, as well... Plus I heard it changes all the ergonomics and dynamics of riding. Down the road, in a few years, I might be thinking about a touring bike for me & GF (maybe wife, then) but for the immediate future, I'm ridin' solo Which shop to purchase from really comes down to who has the bike I want at the price I want... and in THAT case, a private party sale is almost always cheaper... Although I'll probably want test rides at a shop so I can make an educated decision... Though to be honest, I'll probably look for a good deal and buy that bike, instead of test-riding lots of models, and then waiting for that model of bike to come up for sale. Probably the wrong way to go about it, eh?