Same here, was looking at getting some draggin jeans but was also considering something to wear over shorts or work pants. I know there are a lot of pants out there, and I also know a lot of them are no better than the regular jeans I currently ride in. This is the last thing I need to complete my gear but I just havent found anything that jumps out at me as a quality, comfortable, and protective pair of pants. Most only fit one or two of these categories.