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Wife and I have supermotos as well. We'll all have to hit G&J kartway in the spring for some cheap track time fun

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Thanks man. And the XR isn't a bad bike, how can it be with it winning most of the comparisons against the Multi? But, it has heavy vibration issues ( bad for long hauls ) and is said it lacks the refinement/character of the Duc. I've also read that the luggage of the XR isn't as quality as the Multi. And, like you, I've simply grown tired of the same old 4cyl and long for a torquey twin. The RS seemed to be exactly what I wanted until I read about issues with upset chassis dynamics past highway speeds ( felt like it was reaching it's limits from 85+ and loses it's smooth feel ), and the boxer seemed to pull or push the bike when you accel in a corner, or even when giving it some neutral throttle on it's sidestand. Things I hadn't considered to be deal breakers until I thought more about it. The Duc is a similar animal to the RS in most every aspect but the offroad portion - and I dont plan to do any of that, but just knowing that option is there gives the Multi a leg up in my book. Wind protection is better on the '15 Multi than older models, and there isn't much out there that could truly offer my wide frame a turbulent free zone anyway - so until I graduate to the big tourers, most all of the smaller sporttourers will give me buffeting to some degree

I still have my old '99 Diamondback X-6 that I seriously need to ride much more often. Used to love getting dirty on that thing

Well....I THOUGHT I'd made up my mind on the next bike. Guess that was a little bit of premature ejac going on. Still got some reservations to mull over, but I'm getting ever closer to figuring out what is the right bike for me. Really do like what I'm seeing about the new Multi though

According to reviews, the latest gen has a wider beak that is supposed to help - but with a wide frame and shoulders I'll likely catch wind to some degree even on a Goldwing. As for helmet buffeting, I'm VERY used to that with my Ninja unless I'm fully tucked. And yes, I get what you did there - you figured out my intentions behind my screen name. Gold star for you, but no cookie...I ate all the cookies - because fat. Never heard of this. Thought you meant the VFR. Damnit T

My findings as well on the differences from prior models. From what I gather, DVT was a big step forward in smoothing out the torque curve. They've also just now went with ride by wire, and the electronic suspension works with an inertia module to adjust valving/preload ( as well as communicating with the ABS system ) in real time? Wasn't sure if you had any hands-on experience with the 2015s yet.What bike did you get?

Think I watched it on YouTube last night. The BMW won it in the sportiness and speed categories, and that's one source where I'd heard about the vibration issue. Thanks man, I'll read it over as soon as I post this. Just know that I wasn't even looking for an adv bike when I found what I think I'm looking for in the Multi, just a smaller sport tourer, that led me to find that it's one of the best do-all tourers. Sure, I may be a bit enamoured with all of it's doohickies, crafty quality, and versatility, but I really am trying to think passed all of that. I get that. And I dont hate my current I4 bike. I'm not selling it off because I cant stand riding it anymore - it does a lot, and does it really well. Just time for me to sit up more, gain some leg room, get more wind protection, gain some mileage, lose the unneeded HP, have some quality electronic amenities, show me somewhat decent track ability, and not have the boring 4cyl drone mile after mile. Best put, it's not the bike...it's me. I looked at the VFR12, but 60 pounds more bike, smaller fuel tank than the 800, and I'm not sure about the DCT automated setup - a little too unconventional imo. Haven't done much homework on these though

That's the same old I4 I'm trying to avoid. Plus a few reviews on youtube showed it wasnt as refined as the Duc, and it has a wicked vibe through the bars somewhere between 4-6k. I looked at it when I was checking out the RS though, not bad

What about Ducati Indy? I've read good things about them, they're specialists, and they have demo bikes to try out. Not fond of the distance, but I'll do what I've got to do if Pauly can't fix me up I've seen bad reports about BMW dealer support from members on the RS forum, but then again that could be just a bad dealer and not a true indication of the factory level support, or a good dealer in general

Just ready for something narrower, nimble, and torquey. My ZX14 has plenty of power most everywhere on the tach, but I'm over the inlines as they're all I've ever had in streetbikes. Not to mention my Ninja has had a megaphone exhaust on it the near 7 years time I've owned it, so I'm REALLY over the sound as well. Just ready for change. My KTM really opened my eyes and ears to a pleasantry with low rev torque and deep tone of a less-than-4-cylinder bike. But I cant do several hundred mile days on a sumo

Selling off my Ninja to upgrade towards something with a more favorable seating position, day long comfort, cool electro-gadgetry, hard luggage, and NOT an I-4. Truly thought I was dead set on the new BMW R1200RS, but some private convo with a few owners on the RS forum has since deterred me. This next bike will be in my stable for a good 8-10 years, so I've been researching most of the year debating the direction I need to take so I'll continue to stay satisfied with it. The '15 Multi 1200S is really calling me at this point. It wasn't what I'd thought I was after initially, but I've since wiped my list and started over after getting lackluster ( for me ) info about the RS - further research has me considering the new Multi. Checked one out at IP Saturday and aside from not getting a test ride, I really like it. It's still something that the luggage can be taken off of in the event I'd like to take in a random trackday without a ton of extra weight to worry about. The big twin is proven and I do crave the newfound low end torque. The bike's refinement reviews are unsurpassed. I especially like the seating position better than the RS. The ergos feel good - sitting in the bike instead of on it. Wider handlebars and handguards. All controls are all well within reach. A plethra of electronic suspension adjustment. New Desmodromic variable valve timing has smoothed out the torque curve and brought it all the way across the rev range, supposedly an improvement from prior models. Longer service intervals. Wider front end helps with more protection from the elements than previous years. Onboard fuel mapping modes. Cruise. Luggage seems VERY well made. The pro's list goes on and on with little cons that I can find. Anyone have input as to whether or not the bike is truly a testament to it's solid reputation? Any qualms, quirks, issues, or failings anyone know of?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/131644706182 PM 2fat2fly here, he may be able to direct you to a source - he's got several of these and the man KNOWS his shit

Does not compute ( ie, where in the hell were you? Because you didn't show up )

C'mon folks. We need another dozen people out here to fill seats. Reserved for 20, we have 7 here? Ridiculousness. Drop what you're doing and come hang out

4pm folks - see you all there

Well, hot damn....look who joined up!

Ok, I think I've finally edited the first post for the last time LOL. I found more stuff that goes along with the bike, and snapped pics of the blems/included goodies. Buyer is getting a ballpark of $3000 in extras along with this deal. Brocks system, pc3 = $1600 GPR V4 = $350 2 spare wheelsets = $500 ( used investment ) New rear Q3 = $140 after my rebate Galfer line kits = $130 bought on sale Militant Moto Barrier Bars frame slider kit = $180 ( got a deal from a forum member who never installed on his bike ) Just sayin

Buildit has a range at his house, but I've not seen any activity from him in quite a while -- he's probably more frequent on ADVrider forum.

Never ridden a Buell, but I like the XB9 footpegs. Drilled out a used set for my Ninja = cheap drop pegs. Congrats on the scoots

Wife and I work the 30th, so we're out. Watch for debris and leaves down there. Ride safe bro

If it fits in my pocket, then I dont "have" a deadly weapon. Thanks kawi. I really need to make time to get some quality weapons training with you guys someday, but Nov14 isn't doable.

Thanks EO, I've taken good care of the big Ninja. I priced it very fairly with all that's included. Dont like to haggle much, rather mark it at a fair price to begin with and give the next guy a decent deal instead of working the pricetag over and over. Considered waiting just because it's a buyers market in the fall/winter, but I dont need to make a few hundo more since the money will be used to initiate the order for my next bike - dealer was optimistic in finding me one here in the states, but if I cant get it spec'd exactly how I want it...I'll order from the mother land. Sooner the better in that case. Can take a few months to get it built, shipped, and delivered. Rumor has it that BMW tends to wait to send bikes over until the container is full - logistically, makes sense...personally, I'll be anxiously counting the days

My loud pipe was to compensate for the bike's flaccid horn.

Thanks Lee. There was a nice Trophy SE and a bagged Sprint at the BMW dealer in Hilliard - both were nice rides, but my heart and head are made up on this...