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You are right but considering his question, I would think he isn't doing the wrenching so..... $500 in parts and 4/5-hours of labor at $60 an hour can get to $800+ very quickly if he isn't careful.

When you put between 8,000 and 12,000 miles on a bike in 8-10 months, you tend to get BORED VERY QUICKLY with them. I loved the R1, it just wasn't fast enough. Great twisty bike but I got tired of the curves and am looking to get registered over 201mph+ (1-mile standing start) before I move back to another roadrace ONLY bike. It's tough enough these days as it is since I have hardly any free time.

Lemosley01, I wish I could pimp like that dude. I've seen him around though he has mad skilz yo, 4 real... Don't be affraid to come talk if you ever see me around. It's the ONLY 2003 BLACK SE in Ohio with Oregon plates.... :thumbup: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/GotBusa/PICT0046.jpg

You didn't hear? Muthapucka has the lap records for all of those tracks on his SV-650. Rossi just called and is flying him to Europe for 06' Moto GP testing...

Uh...a $500 bike is still a $500 bike even if you put $800-1000 in repairs towards it. :thumbup:

Don't be fooled by the talk, a bonestock 600 won't run anywhere close to 9's. You'll be lucky if you get mid-10's with ALL the bolt-ons. :grin2: The article he is referring to is with a prorider (Ricky Gadson) and the times are *corrected* to see level and perfect meteorlogical conditions. In reality he ran high 10's but SPORTRIDER did there usual magazine test BS and floated the numbers to sell magazines... Go to any of the major dragbike sites and ask Rickey yourself.

I think this is the funniest, if not dumbest thing I have ever read on this forum..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: It's almost a tie with your 600's running 9's comment....

My take on that is that leaning on the tank for the racer position (if you want to call it that) takes some of the pressure off of your wrists/arms. On a situp bike like a speed triple or V-max or something makes my arms tired and hurts my upper back/sholders after a while...

I thought the R1 was a lot more comfortable than the CBR900RR. Come to think of it I think after 3-hours on all of them, my butt needs a stretch on the BUSA the most. I've never had back or wrist/arm problems. I just have to stand up and stretch the legs which is about the same for me on every bike and my 6' 2" frame....

But doesn't your SV-650 have RACE REPLICA fairings on it? Does that make you a squid wannabe racer....?

If I remember right he has a GSXR-1k in sheeps clothing.... Muthapucka you clearly have NO clue. Just because you have been to one maybe two track days doesn't make you an expert on a motorcycle. Your statment about "put me on whatever bike you got and I'll show you how it's done" comment just shows your ignorance.... But hey maybe when I get back from the desert, I can attend one of your track days and show you how slow and heavy a BUSA is on a roadcourse. :thumbup:

Lemosley01, Though I don't agree with giving a newbie a brand new high powered bike, many people have started out on big bikes without a problem. I for one went from a YSR50 to a CBR900RR and had ZERO problems when I was 17. Anyone with half a clue can start on a bigger bike WITHOUT a problem. Do I recommend it in ALL occasions NO but I will if someone knows the basics and takes his/her time. Second, everything we are arguing is an OPINION and nothing more. Since you clearly have NO experiense on long rides, I'll give you some FACTS. I rode my R1 from Columbus, MS to San Antonio, TX in a tad over 11-hours straight. Only stopping to piss, fill up and grab a bite to eat. So once again your what's comfortable and what's not theory is only a OPINION! I guess riding from Biloxi, MS to Houston, TX and BACK every other weekend for 6-hours isn't long enough to think about on my CBR900RR....

You've been reading to many magazines.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Last time I checked Chief8one is what....23-years old. That means he should have half a clue. We aren't talking about a 15/16-year old punk kid that is out trying to prove himself on what he thinks is a FAST bike. I don't know what your build is but plenty of sportbikes are comfortable. I loved my CBR900RR, R1 and both my BUSA's. But that is all opinion and owner preference so it is pointless to even argue.... You guys are hilarious. I don't think there is a single person on here that uses there bike 100% for it's designed purpose. Last I checked I didn't see any of you out braking Mladin at Mid Ohio last year.....

What is done to the Z06 would be a better question. Stock the Z06 = Owned!

Muthapucka, I have ridden one and they are nothing to write home about. SV650/1000, TL-S/R and all the 600's are BORING to me but hey I've ridden A LOT of bikes. Chief8one, If you have half a clue and just a little bit of THROTTLE CONTROL, I wouldn't recommend any of them. I would say go right for the LITER BIKES if they are comfortable for you. As long as you respect the bike and ride it civilized until you figures things out, no need to waste money on anything LESS. If you're like EVERYONE else I know with a 600, you will wish you would have got something bigger 2-months after riding....

I would think the repairs on that model would be more than it is worth. IMO, I would get something newer but if you aren't looking to spend much, it may be worth fixing for you. Is that plenty of power for you and your passenger? It may be a good time to upgrade if that is your desire....

That bike was made for the factory teams to improve on at the track. It was never meant to be a good street bike. It has the basic tools for a fast well BUILT RACE BIKE under the current rules and that's it! Should still be a fun bike though....

What are your goals on a motorcycle?

Muthapucka, You are talking about a TRACK environment where the corner speeds are higher. On the STREET is a completely different animal.... So by your logic a 5.0 mustang with 205 (rated) HP will be better for a 16-year old getting his license than a 06 Civic with 200 (peak) HP.....? That's pretty much what you are saying power wise. As for your other logic, YOU NEED MORE SEAT TIME ON THE STREET. Everything you have talked about is track related. You are correct in that "The whole point of having the broad power band and torque is so that you dont need to give any throttle to get anywhere." but....that is EXACT REASON it will be a tougher bike to ride for a beginner. He is in the power SOONER and going FASTER for the same throttle input as if he were on a 600. Back at THROTTLE CONTROL again...hmm.....funny how that works. Maybe you should check out the graphs again since you are hard up on the track and numbers... 02/03-SV650S http://sportrider.com/bikes/146-0308-sv650-dyno-zoom.jpg 03-GSXR600 http://sportrider.com/features/146-0406-r600dyno-4-z.gif For the record a 600 has the SV650 covered from 4,500RPM's on up. So maybe the statement about the SV650 making NO POWER could be accurate.... j/k

Your comment about europe is hilarious. What do you think started the naked V-twin craze. It was guys putting the big power 4-cylinder engines in the tube frames back in the late 70/early 80's. Your comfort statement is an opinion because lots of people PREFER a sportbike over a more sit-up bike. If you have been overseas, you would know that your arms get tired on the A-roads from all the back and forth, back and forth action. A sportbike (in my opinion) is much easier and FASTER to ride in those situations. Your body/arms work less going over the mountain than when on a Monster/SV style bike. Stop and go traffic is another thing all together and what I assume you are trying to refer to....

You missed the point of my post completely..... If your in the power sooner, the bike will be much tougher to ride for a newbie....PERIOD. If you have to rev it, it will take longer to get into trouble. Hence.....it is ALL ABOUT THROTTLE CONTROL! So a newbie that is using the throttle lightly will think a 600 is slower initially UNTIL they rev it out. (We hope when they have the experience to.) A 650 on the other hand will feel quicker from the second the throttle is OPENED until the middle of the RPM range where MOST of the people on the STREET normally operate. Since you pulled out the dirt bike talk, I'll put it in your language. Two newbies take off side by side, one on a 2-stroke and one on a 4-stroke. They have just let out the clutch and are putting along at 5mph. They decide to whach the throttle open. Who is going to jump out first? With that in mind, the bike with more torque will be trouble from the get go where the 2-stroke will be a bottle rocket "eventually." Even though the 2-stroke has a more explosive power band (higher in the rev range) a newbie learning to ride theoretically shouldn't be in it. That comes back to the THROTTLE CONTROL topic again because a newbie isn't going to be riding ride wide open every where he goes (to stay in the power band)..... Maybe I didn't explain it enough because the 1000cc+ comment was MY preference for riders with half a clue. IMO....that is a more usable bike. You have instant POWER unlike these 600'c that you have to rev to 10,000 RPM BEFORE IT DOES ANYTHING! The Rossi comment was a joke that you bite. Relax Mr. Road race wannabe (evidentally squid from your bike knowledge)..... j/k

You are talking about a race environment. In the real world, ON THE STREET it would be pretty much the opposite. Even though the 600 would take a little more focus in stop and go traffic. Having LESS torque, it would probably be better in corners (on the street) because you don't have instant throttle. With more of a delay in the same gear, the 600 would be more civilized. You don't cruise around at 13,000 RPM on the street unless you want to get pulled over. That is why I don't like the 600's and would recommned at least a 1000cc bike or more. You have to rev the crap out of a 600 to go anywhere. That is what makes the BUSA or any liter bike such a good all around bike. You don't have to keep shifting ever five seconds. It's got just as much go at 60mph in 6th as a 600cc bike in 3rd. So really the 650 would probably be tougher for a new rider on the street learning THROTTLE CONTROL. P.S.....Carrying speed, braking late and all around handling is only as good as the rider. It won't matter what cc bike you are on. Rossi on a V-ROD would probably still own someone on a GSXR-1k at Mid Ohio or any other road course venue.

Mileage on a bike is an odd topic because some people buy bikes and hardly ever ride. While other people buy bikes and put more miles on them than there car in one year. So you have several different catergories of riders. There are always inbetween guys but this will give you an idea of what is around.... a) The poser crowd that has maybe 500-miles a year on a bike (if that) b) The weekend/nice weather rider that puts maybe 2k-6k on a bike in a year c) The enthusiest that will put around 6k-12k on a bike in a year d) Then there is the hard core touring guys that put 20k+ on a bike in a year Generally the a) croud is Harley owners or the guy that scares the shit out of himself and wants to sell it. Those are the bikes you can find for a heck of a deal. As long as the maintenance is kept up the mileage isn't that big of a deal. Just try and find one that hasn't been laid down. Lots of bikes with less than 500-miles that have been wrecked hard and repaired. BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO GET ONE OF THOSE. Just look at the tires, sprockets, chain, oil, brakes, etc....same stuff as on a car. You will be able to tell instantly who takes care of and maintains there bike and who doesn't. Better to pay a little more for a well kept bike than a ragged out piece....