Trust me, I know. I don't much care for them or Flyers, but the wife and kid always make a face when I suggest Papa John's, so I normally lose out. They also like Donatos and I'm not a big fan of that either. I'd rather have the two that they hate, Pizza Hut and Papa John's, and I know it's because those tend to be thicker crusts. Where I grew up in New York, almost all mom and pop pizza joints were thick crust, so that's just what I grew up with. I miss it...