Trouble Maker

But it's a drug. The 'systems' they have right now if Cali is so fucked up. That places names are funny though iGrow, Grow Squad.

I prefer the term ignorant closed minded piece of shit for people like him, but you can call it what you like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feFNVH508us

Is that why he can play so good? But that's pretty cool, didn't know that was Dave Grohl in the movie.

Hated that song from the first time I heard it. Kind of sad it's from Foo Fighters. Dave Grohl is a genius though.

Yup, dad's 38 special was my favorite hand gun to shoot growing up. It has more family history than most too (grandpa got it as a gift for being the president of the sportsman's club). Our 45 was just a little too big for my scrawny ass when I was younger.

I'm still researching, but these are the easy picks right now. I think you meant not in mini ITX, looks like they have plenty in micro ATX? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17984815#post17984815 http://www.zotac.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=100026&lang=un http://www.newegg.com/Product/NewProduct.aspx?Item=N82E16811154091&Tpk=Apex%20MI-008 That board looks like it's only available in the UK right now? I've also been reading about people being worried about shipping time/availability with them (mini itx h55 boards) being new. I was going to wait, do more research until I ordered. Plus I have more free time once winter is over and the tuner card won't be out for a few months still. But I'm debating ordering the mobo soon just in case it takes a while. Everything else I can get on newegg so ordering and getting it should be no problem. Question about graphics power? Am I worrying over nothing? Does it only 'decode' the stream if it's displaying it. i.e. using all 4 tuners on the HTPC recording 2 shows, watching 1 on the living room tv and watching one on the bedroom tv. Is the only one that goes through the iGPU is the one on the living room tv? Then the recording shows simply 'tune' and record, and the bedroom tv is decoded by the extender (xbox 360). If I need the extra power, I'll go i5-661 (for the 900mhz graphics), but if not, why not just get the i3. I'm thinking it should be fast enough otherwise. I need a pci-e slot for the tuner or I would definitely look into the new dell or acer HTPC's that they have out right now. The looks/form factor is really nice.

That chart answers me exactly what I wanted to know. The chart I posted detailed the same stuff for the i5-6x1 vs i5-6x0 vs i3-5xx (all on the same chart on your link also). It just said the numbers 733 and 900 for them under iGPU and i didn't know if that was just some arbitrary number designation for that particular iGPU chip or a speed number. Speed number it is and I will most likely be getting the i5-6x1 for a little more hp in the HD department. I'm not a big gamer, I hardly play my 360. Play the Wii a little more but not that much. So gaming graphics are not a sticking point for me. I might get a racing sim or two and a steering wheel at some point, but I'm not worried if I don't get full rez and 100fps. I want something to completely replace my DVR and DVD player to only act as an HTPC full time. Desktop makes more sense from an economic and form factor standpoint. That link I posted (http://www.cetoncorp.com) is the only card that will be able to do what it can do when it comes out. It can do HD including encrypted channels from a cable card m-card (multistream), not just clear QAM channels. It has 4 tuners built into it. The first product they are coming out with is pic-e based. The OEM restriction on this technology was lifted by cable labs (the control everything having to do with cable cards) back late last year sometime and Ceton just happens to be the first to market.

Sounds good. I'm still confused if i5 will be better than i3. I have no idea about the size. That's something I'm struggling with. Ceton is calling it a 'low profile' card. Not sure what a case the size of a mini-itx would fit. They say it will be 7.85"x2.535" It doesn't look much taller than a cable card (same form factor as a PC card AFAIK). http://cetoncorp.com/support_faq.php#faq_139 I want to do audio over HDMI, preferable bit-streaming. For bit-stremaing I think I need either a clarksdale processor or 56/57/5800 video card. I'm not too worried about how to rip them. I will be doing that and from a techinical standpoint I can figure whatever is needed out. Something 'automated' would be nice, but not necessary. I'm more worried about UI from a playback stand point. It's sounds like WMC Win 7 does exactly what I want it to. Those plugins sound really cool (especially the commercial skip), I'll definitely look into some key plugins like that. I've not looked into remotes at all yet. I'll probably just do a WMC remote w/IR to get the codes and the IR, then do some universal learning remote. Seems that WMC spefici remotes that are any good are expensive, at least that's the image I get. Seems like it's cheaper to get a cheapo WMC remote to get the codes and IR, then get a nice non-WMC specific universal remote. I already have a USB dongle based cordless (Logitech) keyboard and mouse. I'll probably use that for now. I'll be hoking this up to my 40" Samsung LCD in the living room. I also have an Onkyo TX-SR606 so I want to be able to hook everything up with via HDMI for ease of connection and I want to bit stream to get the best audio and take full capability of my system. Also my understanding is that LPCM can do 192kHz/24bit, but all of the current (software on PC) dvd players will down sample to 48khz/16bit (same as dvd, optical route) due to it not being a secure path, then up sample to 192/24 to stream over LCPM. I don't want to get DVD quality sound out of the lossless codecs used in Bluray.

So are you still sticking to the 'iGPU's are shit' statement from earlier and saying I should do that plus a video card or do you think the iGPU in the i3/5 would be enough? If I do a video card, why do the i3 or i5 and 'waste' the iGPU? Going down that route, what would other chips could I use that would be equilivant without the extra cost of the iGPU From what I was saying earlier, this is the problem. I want to go mini-ITX for the size (and partially cost). But if I do and am not happy with the video i can't add a video card. So I would have a to get a new (more expensive) mobo and new (more expensive) case and the extra cost of the video card. The extra cost from the get go is not a big problem, but having to rebuy items, and sell the old ones at a loss would suck. I also don't want to assume from the get-go I'm going to need an external video card and the associated extra cost and footprint that would mean Good to hear my thinking about what it can do is correct. How's the DVD user interface in WMC with Win 7? My image is the pictures of the DVD's/Blurays you can click on and play that are ripped to your HDD. I was at a friends and saw this too (he was using something other than WMC). I know this is possible with add-on's or other front ends. Is this built into WMC with Win 7?

I will be using Win 7 as it supports what I want to do (non-OEM cable card support). I will be using the Ceton tuner. http://www.cetoncorp.com/ Your welcome. DVR, I will probably use built into windows for now. Might look at something else later but I want this to be as stable and user friendly as possible. Once I get this up and running I will get rid of the HD-DVD player and Cable company DVR. Also the g/f will be using this so it needs to be as simple as possible to use and as stable as possible. She knows how to use PCs very well, but I don't want this to be any more complicated than using a regular DVR, at least not any more than it has to be. I want to do bit-streaming audio so I will probably go with the new 5600/5700/5800 card if I do a separate. I know LPCM isn't that much 'worse', I just want it mostly. The clarksdales (i3, i5) support bit-streaming so that's why I was looking into those. We've got a Wii for downstairs now so I will be putting the 360 upstairs as an extender so we can have our the same DVR on the bedroom TV. I'm looking to decrease junk downstairs and (greatly) increase the capabilities at the same time.

So I'm going to put my HTPC together soon. I'm still learning all of this and haven't been into PC stuff in a while. Please correct me if I make any incorrect assumptions or have bad base knowledge. I'm would like to do mini-itx to keep the total size down. I would rather not do Micro ATX because it seems 'big'. Here's the rub, I need one pci-e slot for a tuner. Since the mini-itx only has 1 slot, that will leave me with 0 left over in case the video is not up to snuff. So I 'have' to do integrated video unless I go Micro ATX. If integrated video works fine, no need for a video card and a Micro ATX would be wasted space (about three times as big as a mini-itx case). The tuner I will be getting can do 4 HD streams. Is this just way to much to ask from integrated video (please don't speak unless you have some knowledge of the integrated video in the i3 or i5)? Will the i5 have more video processing power (better integrated GPU) or just more power for other processes? I'm a little confused from this chart. Says same GPU, but I'm wanting to think the i5 should also do video better? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1172451 Just wondering if the i5 is worth the extra money. A question about mini-itx. One of the boards I'm looking at has 6 sata ports. Obviously any mini-itx will usually only take 3 devices from a space standpoint (usually a disc drive and 2 HDD's from what I've seen). I saw some back punch out pannels and cables that looked like they were for external HDD's using the rest of the SATA ports. So is there some sort of external case that can power the HDD's and you just connect them the the MB with those extra SATA ports? Just wondering for down the road if I fill up HDD space since HD video takes up a lot of space very quickly.

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I don't think a job that physical would be what he would need.

http://gizmodo.com/5411468/avatar-the-result-of-a-quest-for-the-holy-grail-of-cameras

http://gothamist.com/images/2003_10_bubbrubb.jpg

Fixt.

Yeah, I was just paraphrasing to get the idea across (hope it was apparent, I was trying to imply I didn't exactly know). Sounds like you know/have read more into it. :thumbup:

There is saying that there are something like 15 movies that come out of Hollywood. Almost all movies follow the same general lines. The one's that don't, I bet everyone posting in this thread would call 'weird'. They are almost never blockbusters, very often foreign or indy films. The reason Avatar had nothing to do with the plot, this movie was never about the plot.

That's a city issue that you voted on.

He needs a few of these so he doesn't accidentally hurt himself. http://www.hasbro.com/nerf/en-US/shop/details.cfm?guid=E26BD694-19B9-F369-D9E0-9E016DAA13A9&product_id=24714&src=endeca

You gonna learn how to go head down before we go or something? :bangbang:

No shit, I feel I have a pretty good psychological constitution but I can't imagine waiting for an hour and a half while the balloon is rising. Not a problem. I'm just glad someone actually read all of what I posted.

Went sky diving in Cali outside of LA. Pretty famous place called Paris Sky Diving. It was amazing! When I have more time/money, mainly money, it's something I'm going to get into. I have dreams about doing some BASE jumps. Let's do it Jones!

Sucks about blowing it up, but glad you got it back together. Good luck on the build and keep us updated, can't wait to see it out sometime!