Aaron

No, they're sweet. I said a shit sandwich. Think a 110k mile 996 carerra, maybe a 2003 model year, with pealing clear coat.

winner gets a shit sandwich

but a little of this too

this

had no idea... http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/news/a27162/secret-ohio-testing-grounds/

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I was calling them both hillbillies.

yeah, I actually stopped reading the one article after it said it understeered, by design...

Wise man. But this is most likely.

And I feel the opposite. Read my reply above. Hillbillies LOL

I couldn't care any less about ET, and this isn't because the new Camaro is better at it, I was the same way in my VW. Trap speed dictates power, and to me is more important. The fact that they are close, is what I care about. Real owners, and all magazine tests but 1, including the writer of the article, got 112 to 113mph on the stock GTs. The 110mph is an outlier. It very well could be true that the 113.X for the Camaro is its slow outlier, but I have a suspicion it won't be, at least for the manual cars which is all I care about.

And there are rumors that the Mustang beat the SS during the "track battle" portion of the Head 2 Head article referenced earlier, which is why they didn't include any track data or information in the article. ***It was confirmed by MT that the above "rumor" is 100% false. Mustang owners LOL*** Of course, this could be S550 owners trying to make themselves feel better that a newer camaro is a bit faster. The sensitivity on the Mustang boards is something i've never seen before. People laughed at VW owners...

The various rags out there getting 12.7-13.0 and 112-113mph, specifically Motor Trend. I think C&D got a 13.0@ 113 too.

the design clearly shows it

Honda, how to take 10 years to recycle an Audi design, make it soul less, and cost 150k.

So it's 4.2 to 60 and a 12.5@113.4mph So roughly 0.2 faster, and under 1mph than the mustang PP. Sounds like the handling is fantastic! http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/a27065/2016-chevrolet-camaro-ss-manual-test-numbers/

Agreed, the 1LE is an impressive package. The wide wheels and sticky tires give it a big advantage over the competition.

Obviously this is a generic statement, as lots of changes were made to support the supercharger. Also, the 1LE was $3,500.

The entire car. The ZL1 is the daily driver type car, full features, mag suspension, massive tq, etc. Z/28 is stripped to weigh less, N/A for racing, and has massive, R comp like tires.

Depends on what you want out of a car, I imagine the Z/28 will have better resale eventually. I'd probably go for the ZL1 though. Really like those.

looks good, love the wheels, not too big, look great.

end of third this group needs some QUALITY time together, and they are getting it today.

WOW

that was a GENEROUS forward progress spot...

Sweet, fun time chatting with you guys, great results!