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Every generation needs a new revolution — Thomas Jefferson

If you move from Lancaster that will fix so many things One word for you regarding wheels / tires: Derek

^^ Agree.....i was multitasking and couldn't spit that out but glad you did. Can't get a DUI if you don't have wheels.

How about simply not letting DUI offenders get behind the wheel of a car ever again. Yet we constantly have them out there over and over and over again killing people without one freaking change in the law regarding them. Shoring up so many other areas of life such as this can save more lives than trying to jerk around with guns.

Amen to the above. No one can dismiss having a CCW isn't helpful in saving lives. It's insurance...something you hope to never use. Just like the fire extinguishers in my house. Extinguishers don't make me a fireman any more than a gun make me a cop but they both will save lives if there when needed and I wouldn't have my family in a home that isn't protected by both. I sit in my chair here each night with a wooded lot behind me and no blinds up and if the motion sensors/alarm goes off out back, it's 99% that someone is out there. I couldn't imagine hearing that and NOT having a gun within reach. I would be doing my family a complete disservice if I was strictly relying on 911 to save them. ^^ I'd swing from those nuts all day because he's flat out right.

So am I more dangerous walking into a mall with the intent to kill everyone carrying 2-3 pistols vs an AR15? Really? So if I only kill 15 with 1-2 shots each is that any different if I kill those same 15 with 3-7 shots per? If others draw on him? So you're saying people are more likely to draw a CCW on a guy with handgun vs an AR15? You're right in a sense that eventually both are going to have to reload, but I'll bet you I can reload my .40cal faster than my AR15. Now I have more practice with it but if I'm dead set on killing the masses and you try and rush me, I'll tell you right now, I'm going to reload that .40cal faster and you won't be rushing at me for long. Exactly...the common denominator in all those Detroit shootings/killings isn't the firearm it's the intent of the person holding them. Where it ends is Obama needs to stop giving away phones and free medical care and needs to start focusing on the education system. even this kids own high school counselor said it was the system that failed as once he left high school, his support needed to help manage his illness was gone.

I see the point you're trying to make, but in reality, it doesn't matter what the purpose of the spoon vs a gun is, as both are just objects. It's really a matter of the intent of the person in possention of them. Limiting the product will only do just that but you're still left with a guy who's intent is to kill you. What would be different about the CT incident if AR-15's weren't in existence? Not a damn thing as he would have just found another object to use. See the point? You seriously believe that as strongly today as you did prior to Obama being in office? Seriously? You just validated the previous point. The 2nd amendment is no longer as sacred as it once was and if you believe it is you're mistaken. Illusionist Roy Horn underestimated his tiger....I'm warning you not to do the same with the those in power today. You will get burned. It's just a matter of when. I also stand by there's no need for new laws or "limits" beyond what we have today. As with most everything, this situation was about poor judgement on many parts, especially the mom who is IMO the one to blame along side her son. She exhibited poor judgement letting him handle a firearm, and had no respect for those around her to allow him access to them. Very poor control over her personal life, son and her guns. Damn shame. I'm 99% doubtful of that. He could have pulled off just as much damage with his two pistols and ammo. The principle that charged him would be dead with any of these guns. If his intent was really to kill a 6yr old he could have had a 30 round .22 cal and done it. Again, overkill. He could have easily fired off less less rounds and still killed them all. His victims were all UNARMED and that's what makes your last statement true. Define "that much fire" How's using a .223 rifle on a 6yr old or at point blank range on a teacher any different than a Glock and/or a Sig Sauer on them ? It's not. He can lay down tons of fire, using multiple guns and reload in between without any difference in the outcome other than perhaps less bullet holes in the same dead bodies. Sorry to be so grim, but it's true. So how do you feel if the gov't begins to demand registrations fro ALL of the above? http://assets.motherjones.com/interactives/projects/2012/12/updated-mass-shootings/final_weapons2.png So by your standards, perhaps these "assault weapons" aren't the ones Obama and his clan should be going after? How's that make you feel in terms of your previous statement that handguns aren't going anywhere? Again, don't underestimate anyone, ESPECIALLY Obama.....he's a liar and everyone with a brain knows it. He LIED about this years 9/11 attack and that's clear. Even Hillary knows she's going to take the heat for all of it and is just this week pulling some BS Stunt tactic. I bet if you ask the husband of the principle, he'd debate that with you right now. If she had a gun, she wouldn't have rushed his AR15 toting ass with her unarmed body. She'd have shot him dead. I see your point about potential mishaps but think about how many teachers are CCW Holders, hunters, and are skilled with guns. It's not like being a teacher automatically means you have no business carrying a gun. Just some counter points.

Yes. Failing to plan is planning to fail.

The .223 Remington can be safely fired in a rifle with a 5.56 mm NATO-spec chamber, but it is extremely dangerous to fire a 5.56 mm NATO round in a .223 Remington chamber

In for Cbus not getting anything. Also in betting my 65" TV turns into a 27" of viewable area thanks to 57 different warnings and threats popping up all over. Said 27" will be filled with all 67" of jim ganahl's belly fat.

Likely the mother. We usually hurt the ones we love right.....

I vote Parents/family

You're area of expertise no doubt. However, in the case of the CT Shooting the mother was an idiot and got what she deserved. The kid was not normal and by more than one account exhibited clear signs of an unstable person. Thus he should not only never have been exposed to guns, left alone to play video games all day nor even remotely had access to her guns. I'm sad for the whole tragedy of course but in terms of her death....meh.....I won't shed one tear.

I gotta admit if I lived along the border in AZ or TX I'd likely be a closet mass murdering sniper that gets high off sniping drug dealers and illegals. I'd trade in my camera gear for some real gear. Here in Dublin I gotta live with plinking squirrels by the dozens

I think whether you're pro gun or not firearm safety and some type of course about them should be made mandatory in schools. My 9 year old can strip and reassemble a gun and knows more about safe handling than my neighbor who barely knows how to hold one or release the magazine.

All this gun talk has just opened the door in my wife's heart for a few more without hearing about it. Yeah, at first I was like but now I'm like:bangbang: Any good deals here on CR, let me know. PM is fine. Looking for 1-2 more pistols, another shotgun and another AR. Good investments for sure but also time for prep before Obama takes down the country.

Worth noting again....Obama is going to go down in history as the worst fucking knucklehead for this country to ever have been in a position of power. If you voted for him then prepare to get what you asked for in all he's doing. Now please go shoot yourself in the head so as not to make such a dumb mistake again. Back on topic, I don't know what he has planned but I think it's safe to assume if he even begins to do too much there will be some crazy nut somewhere shooting targets of him. Another crazy thought....why couldn't this kid from CT have gone into a prison and shot up all the prisoners? Imagine the news coverage after such a thing.....

I vote for spoon control.

Define gun control

That won't handle very well. Good luck to them.....

Fixed. So long as the gov't doesn't come for your AR15 all is good but hey, let's just anyone around steal our photos. nice siggy there man

Saw something like this on 270 on the south side too. Didn't pay too much attention to it as I had a guy in a Dodge Dakota playing Race Truck. Sucker....

I'm not saying it's right or even that it's not fraud...just saying it occurs a lot. Fuck insurance co's.

fraud? meh.....lots of shops do that. hell, my state farm adjuster padded my claim to cover my $100 collision deductible when the knucklehead on a bike hit my car. He did so because even he didn't think it was fair.

Bought my dedicated Sony at Christmas last year. More than $300 and if you want the vids on BluRay or edited, you'll need to spring a bit more for the requirements. Overall not dead by any means.