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this time it's the Neo's but other times it is the other side doing the same shit. need we play the clip in Chicago of pigs in a blanket chants from groups of people from all over.... Holy Shit to that too. and right back at you with holding Obama and many others responsible for the above that march against cops and others who have also killed people with their rage. Think back to the ambush of officers in Dallas.

that's your opinion and your purposely trying to make that a reality when it's not. if you're on the far right and I call you a fucktard and I call the other guys on the far left one too, it doesn't make you less of one. both sides here have fucktards in their groups from this weekend. it's not about some moral equivalency given those on the left swinging clubs this weekend weren't just innocent moms and dads protesting, they were thugs and trash talkers with the same mindset and actions as the neo's on the right. Those swinging clubs on both sides were just as bad as one another. The morals or lack of them from the Neo's doesn't justify or raise up the morality of those swinging clubs at them. there's not much more the conservatives can do than condone the right as they've done many times this weekend and in the past. again, calling the left out on their behavior was justified just the same and it's those on the left swinging clubs same can be said for the other side and their groups of turds.

ISIS doesn't give a crap about innocents dying. they don't like our way of life and even many of the good-guy muslims don't agree with lots of things that are western ways and culture. Extremists don't need any more nor do they benefit from empowering them through hating them. Fuck them and their beliefs and my saying that or even Trump saying that isn't going to give them any more ground to claim their stance. Their stance sucks and is shit either way. It's an excuse the liberals here are giving ISIS because it fits their political stance and that's it. it's not about him providing praise or enabling them, it's about appearing weak and not enabling our troops to put a boot up their ass and speak their language. there is no such thing as a 'fair fight' in the middle east. These fucks don't give a crap about our morals nor do they fight by them. Same with North Korea. That pussy backed down once he realized or was told that the US does mean business and was about to light him up, despite the fact that millions of innocents could be lost. He's a dog as are the ISIS fighters and rabid dogs don't live by servant leadership they live by a dog eat dog world and pack mentality thus you have to establish that with them. anything less isn't something they fear.

Agree. Both sides are to blame. No one is drawing a direct parallel of those on the left opposing the Neo-nazi stance.....I think it's safe to say even the radical leftist fucks oppose them as do the sensible peaceful left leaning groups. However, it's the way they handled themselves that puts them on the same playing field. IMO people are either confusing or not clarifying the difference between a moral-plane of where each side comes from and the reality of how each side is actually acting. I see four parties here: Conservative even right wing peaceful protesters & Neo-nazi whack jobs or however we classify the group(s) Liberal or even leftist peaceful protesters & ANTIFA, BLM or however we classify the radical fuck stick group(s) both sides do have decent peaceful people that protest reasonably, but this weekend, those two groups of decent folks got over-run by the fuck-sticks and whack jobs and now people are lumping them all together when it fits their story line. That's wrong and bullshit and that's the problem. This is still America where free speech does still protect even the low lifes of the world like Neo Nazi's and as hard as that may be to tolerate, it's what differentiates our country from the rest of the world. That right of free speach should not be squashed because at some point, something each of us supports will not be liked by someone and if we cave and begin to allow stifling of free speech, it's just a matter of time before it comes back to bite you and what you believe in.

I have excellent vision, perfect hearing and I can read. The bullshit political games that continue are what's sad.

I don't see him saying that. However, perhaps if people re-wordsmith their sentences to be separate that will help ease your pain on the points being made. has nothing to do with my viewpoint. reading comprehension of his posts isn't difficult. it's you that reads into what people say things they don't mean and you ignore it when they clarify. I think Trump has given strong condemnation on more than a few occasions. Again, you seem to choose not to acknowledge when people clarify things. I didn't see him as being centrist at all. He said but sides have fucktards that are worthless. Pretty clear and pretty accurate. sigh... what he calls fucktards on both sides you call centrist and yet you see nothing wrong with that. oh well... No one said those guys were smart. If they can't see his words and statements as denouncing them then seriously, they are fucking stupid. However, they aren't that stupid, they are trying to attach themselves to him because he has a base they want exposure to. Guess what, the news has given them more coverage in the last few days then they have gotten in years. That's not Trumps fault. we know that and both Brandon and I have been telling you we see that. at least you clarified it in your own words. man-point for you for doing so. welcome to life. lots of Trump haters or haters of Trump supporters don't share the viewpoint presented. turn on CNN then flip to Fox any day of the week on any subject and you'll see the same thing. that doesn't reflect on Brandon's point at all. What you're intending to do is get him to change his statement if he wants your buy-in when many of us pretty say no thanks. we're not here to garner your approval on our views. choose to think Trump is wrong for blaming the extremists on the left that came out. IMO you're then doing what you're accusing him of and supporting their shitty actions just the same. If the KKK comes marching down my street I'm certainly not going to grab a club and turn all savage animal on them to make my point or stand my ground and claim I'm simply exercising free speach by shutting down theirs. What those that were on the other side did was just as pathetic and weak-sauce and did nothing but give the KKK freaks what they wanted, a HUGE platform and plenty of exposure and they in fact legitimize their cause as they see it. The next time some fuck-tard gives you the bird because you changed lanes in front of him and calls you an asshole out the window, just ignore them. 99.9% of the time the situation resolves itself as what they really want you to do is react. If they get violent, call the cops and sue their ass. Kerry, you know all this damn well and that what you don't do is give them the response they want and platform to perform. [quote} No he doesn't, you need to change your optics and take what he says as fact and truth vs running it through some twisted filter. I think people pretty much say the same to and about you. I also don't think he needs to toughen up. For some reason you interpret his responses as a weakness when in fact those that reply to you are quite the opposite and aren't going to let your long winded replies shut them down. Ironically that's exactly his point and what we're seeing in society today. The left DOESN'T approve of free speech, only THEIR speech. I don't see anyone here in this thread worried about being challenged so you can keep the buttercup comments to yourself as they aren't really applicable. I'll tell him the same about the fat kid comments towards you. You're just big boned (and yes, I mean that in a friendly way) as I'm at confident enough that internet banter on CR is not your platform for judging people. If you think the left-winger extremists aren't a threat then you're sadly mistaken. They are proving even more dangerous to our society than just counting lives lost. You're interpretting the highlighted portion of my comment as if I think there are non-fuckstick KKK Members? Reading comprehension fails you or this is again, your attempt to twist words. I won't bother to clarify as it's clear you won't change your view even if I yell it across the phone into your ear. I will double down and remove group names so you lose two words to twist.....groups on both sides have their share of fuck-sticks. By groups don't go plugging in group names then if it helps calm your feelings because what happened this weekend involved four groups - peaceful protesters on both sides and fuck-sticks on both sides. If you didn't catch that, that's pretty much what Trump said too. He's not wrong. I think both Trump and Brandon and even myself have done that. You just choose not to see that because you're so focused on Trump. Again, talking with you, one would think Trump drove that car wearing a white hood. Thankfully, many can see that you're a spin-master on stage though. A strong statement towards both is not a concession. Niether group from this weekend get's a pass and if he were to focus on only one then THAT indeed IS a pass to the other side. Sorry but calling both sides fuck-sticks is where the answer is. shame on him for expecting you to understand the simplistic. he lacks a communications dept like Trump I guess which causes the liberal elitists with higher educations to freak out due to comprehension issues. Here's a pro-tip - Brandon nor Trump support the KKK or their agenda. Choose to believe what you wish though. He doesn't speak Kerry, only English. Perhaps if you shared a cup of coffee with him you'd get it. I've shared one with both of you and see both sides. Will it make you feel better if I call you both Fuck-sticks in this thread? Or will you interpret that as giving him a pass? and Fuck you for making me write a novel here....go buy a Porsche already so you have a car to talk about. Then pay me to make it look good.

There's a silver Camaro with Red and Blue lights looking to race you. So I heard anyway

Their message and following has failed since they are guilty of what others are saying Trump is guilty of and that's not denouncing the extremist turds that claim to be a part of their movement. I've seen more negative examples of BLM supporters than positive and since I consider their roll is to control their message then they must be condoning the extremists. Like you Ben, I have a mixed family on multiple accounts.

I've read his posts on this point and I don't see it. Not in his posts. I've also watch closely and Trumps response on the VA situation and I'm watching how people twist his words. He never "supported" or called the KKK/Neo groups people good or anything to that effect. Yes, there were indeed a small group of protesters with a permit on-site protesting the removal of a statue. and there were peaceful protesters on the other side as well. THOSE are the people he referenced as "good people" on both sides of this situation. HOWEVER, the media and many people twisted that to say he's supporting the KKK and calling those turds good people when in fact that's not true and very clearly a lie. They do it partly because I'm sure some believe that but IMO mainly to stir the pot and create the shit storm that happens afterwards. That's fine and that's what you see through your optics. Same as I just noted above about those trying to come down on Trump. It's incorrect and that's my opinion and when people like Brandon double-down and state it about as clearly as can be you and others still refuse to acknowledge or accept his statements and instead state he must change his approach. No he doesn't, you need to change your optics and take what he says as fact and truth vs running it through some twisted filter. He's not stating that he supports segregation or treating people of color or jews poorly. Not at all. He's not wrong in lumping the BLM and KKK names into groups either. it's the easy button vs constantly describing exactly who he's referencing. Are their peaceful BLM members that just want to stand up for equality yes, but just the same their have their fair share of fuck-sticks just like the KKK and both of those groups of people are just as bad for our country as the other. who gives a fuck what those assholes call it. if the crackhead Neo's show up and support what you're stating does that make you a Nazi or a KKK Sympathizer? We have no control if they want to twist what is being said and then in turn say they support it. That's on them. The media and left tend to favor that stance BECAUSE it makes Trump look bad. They can't clearly be that fucking stupid to think he is a sympathizer with them when he too has clearly denounced them. I see the frustration and bewilderment in his eyes when speaking because when the fuck what comes out of his mouth not been crystal clear? Especially on this matter. That said when I see twisted logic like this and say to myself WTF? then reality sets in and it's very clear what's going on....people aren't that stupid, you're not stupid and you know what Brandon's stating, you just don't accept or acknowledge it for a multitude of reasons. NO different than your comments about me thinking all Muslims are the enemy. Please, it's easy to see through.

IMO it's not a matter of clarity from your view, it's a matter of others using some creative thought to skew what you're saying. It's no different than what is happening in the media with Trump. If I didn't know better you'd think by the media's response that Trump drove that car into those people. I don't even think many know the name of the turd that did drive the car. His initial statement on the matter came out before the identity was even confirmed so he approached it from the standpoint that fuck-sticks from both groups were to blame. Doesn't matter who started it when both show up and do stupid things. Ripping down and spitting on statues.....reminds me of ISIS trying to destroy history. Like that's the right thing to do or makes bit of difference His position and arguments aren't IMO formulated the best in terms of optics or how they come across. He's a political novice and clearly doesn't give a fuck. He even pisses off his own handlers I'm sure. That's Trump. In the end though polish and delivery matter only so much. He's not wrong that both side, regardless of who swinging the bat or spraying the pepper spray, are the problem. It's quite clear, neither on the answer that's for sure.

Kerry, you very very often twist your opinion into what you want to be a fact. I don't at all see Brandon making arguments that he supports KKK or wants them to continue or condones their actions as speaking for conservatives. He's been more than clear that he feels the KKK, White Supremacists, neo-nazi's and anyone of the such are all fucking horrible and they get what they deserve. Just the same that BLM and ANTIFA are fucking horrible too....and those are quotes from his previous posts. Even more-so, no one is stating that the KKK even speaks for conservatives. I don't even think the KKK believes that. You need to stop that as it's quite apparent and negates your arguments which you spend so much time formulating into words.

that's your opinion but many of us don't fit that description. I would say most even. We simply want our gov't to focus on us US Citizens first and foremost with the policies and decisions being made. it's not complicated. if you wish to lump people into categories like that or try and use words like cowering that's your choice. Again, your opinion on my stance. Just because I support his ban doesn't mean I think my neighbors across the street are my enemy. You often lump people into groups and cast wide nets but seem to not like it when others do that. You need to pick a stance on that matter.

Trump's message is not racist, it's pretty simple in that it puts our country and our people first. Period. It's not anti-Semitic or xenophobic. so all of his talks and videos about his Muslim influence is just a lie he spewed to the audiance he was addressing at the time? I don't care where he grew up or what religion he says he practices, it's pretty clear in his own words where his heart lies. where did I ever say all Muslims are the enemy? next time you're around you can meet my Philippine neighbors across the street who have a mixed family of Christians and Muslims and listen to how they address the concerns as they see and have seen first hand both sides. It's very interesting.

you seem to be drawing a weird correlation. feel free to plug in fuck-sticks but don't go all sexist on me if you choose to substitute that term.

he ran a campaign that put America and our Citizens first period. that's not racist, it's common sense. it's pretty clear was very sympathetic to them and grew up with a huge influence from their culture. and Obama claimed he supported Hit liar y too and that she was the best candidate. any more violent than the left riots and rants on campuses and elsewhere encouraged by those from the left claiming people should "resist"? citation? No he didn't. Illegals should be deported and we should be adhering to the fucking law not allowing or encouraging illegal aliens to come, stay and even be protected by sanctuary city bullshit. really? so he wanted to kill gays, never supported blacks or called for jews and blacks to be killed? really, please stop exaggerating. listen to his inaugural address and tell me what he said about all of us bleeding the same color blood, etc...he has not made claims or shown support for the KKK. that's like stating a guy coming from church has to denounce the hooker he passed on the highway. dude, he ran a campaign pledging to support the black community and went out of his way to prove it even while some shunned him and others on the left didn't do shit even when in office. I think if anyone still thinks Trump needs to denounce this bullshit one more time then they haven't a clue as to how often he already has. If I was black, I'd be pissed that the country's first half-black dude didn't do a thing to help the depression so many communities face. he basically fed them more social welfare programs to keep them addicted to their current way of life. pathetic.

Call me when Congress passes a law that prohibits your free exercise of religion.

he hasn't "cultivated them" they made their own choice to support their own cause and him no different than Obama and BLM only Obama invited those turds to the White House.

he did fail at the political speak game of once again denouncing Nazism...cause we all know deep down he's a skin-head right? and what's with the hate towards his God comments? like we aren't a country founded on faith right? if he said "have a blessed day" would he be considered racist because that's a black thing? we're going a bit over board here.... maybe deep down inside he figures "fuck them"? no different than anyone else. again, we're a country founded and still driven by the majority of people who do have some type of faith. You can define a true American however you wish as will his followers. I enjoy our pledge of allegiance to the flag and appreciate the edit made to it in the 50's to show support against the communist threat and think it's still valid against simliar threats including that of the Islamic Extremists. Fuck both of them! This isn't Russia and or Little Syria and we're not a country founded on atheism. You don't have to agree with that but then don't get all butt hurt when someone disagrees with you, including our President who now finally isn't a pussy caving into ideals that differ than ours.

You're welcome to give the elected officials and those in charge a pass but not me. This isn't he worlds first parade of skinhead/kkk knuckleheads to prepare for dealing with. I also will allow you to categorize them as the Unite the Right but last I checked, they aren't exactly the conservatives choice for representation. Alt-right perhaps. Not sure where you think I dodged. Again, you can put down the false and lame attempt to link me to supporting or defending them. Fact still stands if I say I'm coming to your front lawn with a baseball bat and you walk outside to confront me and talk shit then you're just as much a knucklehead. I think even going way back to the David Duke thing during his campaign he's been pretty clear that he doesn't approve or support such shit. He should have probably put his political hat on tighter in this case and played the entertainment game more but if anyone really thinks he supports this then they are misguided fool who is looking more for political entertainment than anything else. Probably. Shame on the others for playing into it too. If people want to take away their power, don't give them the attention they seek or coverage they want. Would have kinda sucked for them if the only ones who showed up were them. IMO everyone is racist to a certain extent. To the degree any of us is however will only be determined true by that persons actions. I'll disagree and state that what you see isn't accurate but is an assumption others will make. No need for any of us to come out an defend what someone else "thinks" we are based on the actions of others. That's solely on them. You might think so but I don't. There's no trap. I've not accepted their view in any way. Our country is built on free speech and who are you or me to tell someone what they can like, love or hate? Putting America First is not Nazi-ism or hate speech so let's not try and link the two. such crap is on both sides Kerry. The BLM movement and extremists on that side are the same turds in return pointing the other way. They are indeed the equal force on the other side. Not that either side really has a place or desire for either of them. ie. I don't sense a democrat supports the extremist ANTIFA/BLM Freaks any more than the republicans support the KKK or white nationalist freaks. this is the fault of both sides here. both sides had people go over the line. you can argue chicken or egg all you want, a bad egg isn't good but then neither was the response to them nor was the end result of how it was handled executed well. you mean the emails she had destroyed to protect some self interest? not sure anyone is disagreeing with you but you like to argue so much you must think they are.

when violence and property damage ensues, any group needs to be shut down at that point. the line between free speech ends once aggressive actions like these occur. So they had no ability to call in any type of support? you're entitled to your opinion but given the circumstances I would have expected someone to have at least a plan for such things occurring otherwise what value do they bring to us as members of the community? personal responsibility around starting a rally approved or not? how about personal responsibility for those beginning and continuing the violence on both sides. are you trying to paint a picture of me only supporting one side? not sure what I've said here on the matter that would lead you to believe that. both sides showed up to go at it. he was wrong but so were those on the other side that chose to come to a rally that was never approved. their intent was pretty evident just as the other sides was. neither side is innocent. no waffling about that.

dude was from Ohio so many of us wondered in all seriousness, the BS that went on is a show of stupidity from all sides. I'm more disappointed in the local officials who didn't shut this shit down. what the hell are the cops and local officials directing them doing letting the riot and people just carry on like that. It's like they just walked away vs coming down in droves with paddy wagons and zip ties. until officials begin to crack down on stupidity with a sledge hammer, it's going to conitnue.

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Looks awesome Rock! Definitely wish I had the property to do something like that.

Let me know if you ever head down there. We have a nice suite there for our creative team. Cool place to hang out and work.

1,200 sq ft of hard surface with a few area rugs in 3-4 rooms/areas here. $20 MicroFiber Dust mop from Lowes & a rechargable Dyson unit and 10 minutes of my time makes short work of our pet hair. I just couldn't see spending $800 on a robot that would take forever and need to recharge between uses to finish. Let me know how you fair if you get one.