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I've seen that before. Truck endangers plenty of people just trying to keep up. I'd be worried about where was a safe place to stop. I'd likely look for a tree to act as cover and come off that bike with a hand on the weapon. Still can't shoot him until he is out of the truck and continuing to pursue. Weapon would be clearing the holster as soon as I saw him exit his truck with a bar headed towards me.

Trying to back over you puts it farther into that grey area. I still think there should have been a way for him to escape the situation. Shooting into a truck cab while trying to avoid getting run over is not likely to be accurate fire. You would have to be carrying the right ammo to even make a clean hit through all that mess. By the time the biker draws his weapon he could have ran down the burm.

Would take some serious circumstances for that. Although it sounds like the truck was driving very aggressively, I still don't think someone brake checking you is reason to kill them. Then again, I don't believe in drawing a weapon unless I'm ready to kill the threat. Even after the truck brake checked him, the rider avoided the truck, and chose to follow him for revenge. He should have popped smoke and booked it while the truck was ahead. Find something concrete to get on top of so you can't get run over. If he continues to pursue, there isn't really any other option. **Read original quote wrong. Didn't see he was back up rather than brake checking** I still think escape to cover is better than trying to get a clean shot through a cab with HPs while on a bike, while your target is actively trying to run you over. Save that for when the dumbass is forced out of the cab to pursue and you are off the bike.

The updated article said he was a permit holder.

Well that information changes things. I was very wrong. They both could be charged, but the truck driver's actions sound to be moving violations. The motorcyclist is wrong for pursuing another driver out of anger instead of just continuing along his ride and ignoring it. Hell it happens to all of us just about every time we ride. The motorcyclist is way wrong for firing shots at him while moving, then following him to shoot at him more, and then dismounting to hit him more. No way that can be justified as self defense. Makes riders and CHL holders look bad.

Ricochet off the skull, a shot in and out clean through the cheek, or a hit to the jaw. Not as uncommon as you think. As someone said earlier, bullets love to bounce off things. I'd say the truck driver caused the incident. Likely the driver got agitated at something the biker did ("Oh no, he passed me. Now I'm mad enough I should kill him") and chased him until he was boxed in, and then tried to run him over. Eventually the biker had enough and found a safe place to stop to confront the driver, and the driver pulled a weapon. Good thing the biker was faster on the draw.

I got mine in Mechanicsburg, in a one-day class. But that was about five years ago so I'm not sure if Chief Bostic is still teaching down there.

If the words shipping company appear anywhere in a response its trash. If I can't talk on the phone to someone I won't deal with them. Meet in public CHL-friendly locations. (Don't forget you're Form 4 when you carry the MAC-11 either)

+1 I can imagine getting back up and saying "Ow, my head", about the same time a pissed off mountain lion starts eating you.

I think you need to get out more if Atterbury is top of your chow hall list...

But really, a 10/22 is hard to beat for the price and fun factor.

M82A1 Cheap ammo and easy to shoot.

Your overall ASVAB score is not as important as your GT score. That will decide what you qualify for. You need >110 to really have your pick of things. I agree that if you go Infantry, get your contract as stacked as possible. Get a bonus and college payback if it is still offered. I would advise Airborne and RASP. If you are going to go the Infantry route, the Rangers will be one of the best routes to take. (Option 40) If you're interested in SF the 18X is a good route, if it is still being offered. You'll get Airborne out of that too. Take this time to get in shape if that is your goal. Run 7 miles in 50 minutes. You will not get a chance to do that kind of distance running in BCT or ABN. (RASP standards are 5 miles, usually at a 7min/mile pace) 70 Pushups in two minutes. 80 Situps in two minutes. SF/Ranger score their tests on the 17-21 bracket, regardless of your age. 19th Group is head-quarted out of Utah, with a company based out of Ohio. I would expect any drill in Ohio area to be light duty. Consolidating drill days into week-long training sessions elsewhere sounds a bit more like it. I know they do a lot of training at Atterbury. You can still go talk to the chain there and see if they will allow you to observe, and maybe even participate.

11B is the MOS for those who want to get out there and get their hands dirty. No practical job skills outside of combat jobs (Service or Merc). Lots of shooting and blowing stuff up though. You can always apply for a different job after you've been in for a bit, but there is no guarantees you'll get it. MI (35 series) and Signal (25 series) have some of the best job potentials once you're out. MI even more because of the TS or TS/SCI and the branching opportunities while in. PSYOP (37F) and CA (38B) are some of the most interesting and fun jobs in the Army in my opinion. Both have lots of practical skills outside the service as well. Go back into the recruiter's on 01 Oct 2012. That is the beginning of the fiscal year and all the slots should be open again. As long as you got the scores, you should be able to negotiate your contract with the recruiters before you go to MEPS. PM me if you need anymore information.

Glad you came out alright. I've been in multiple car and motorcycle accidents, all without any major injury. Best thing I've found to do is just suck it up and get back out there. The faster you get back to doing it the quicker it will feel normal again. I'd advise against avoiding the activity. I've had buddies that went down hard and resisted getting back on, and they ride less or not at all now. Others who hop back on after the wreck seem to do fine. Some of it is mental resilience as well. If that is a problem you can have my spot in some awesome MRT classes.

My Dad built his house with a large instant-on water heater to supply the whole place. He ended up having to add heating elements to the pipes running outside, as well as a storage tank to store ~5 gallons of heated water to avoid the 2 minutes it took for hot water to reach the far side of the house. It is nice because it never runs out once its flowing. It also has a control panel for adjusting heat. (Showering vs. laundry, etc.) I can't tell you anything related to cost because it is the only system he ever used there.

MEPS is easy. Sit around and wait. IF IT ISN'T IN WRITING IT DOESN'T EXIST!! Bring a notebook with all your addresses and numbers. You likely won't see your cell phone after you arrive at BCT until you're done. Take the time to call and write people. Getting mail is a great pick me up so make sure to designate a representative to pass you're address around once you get it. A change of clothes isn't necessary but it's nice on family day, graduation, and time off in OSUT/AIT. And this don't mean I'm encouraging you to break the uniform rules on those days either. Phone cards go quick and are cheaper off-post. You don't get any extra points for being best or worst in your class. Learn as much as you can and stay as unnoticed as you can. Have fun! It is a bunch of fun events and training. Just roll with the bullshit and you'll be fine. Those friendships you make there will last a long time. 3 Rules: 1. Be where you are supposed to be. 2. Be there at the right time. (15 minutes early) 3. Be in the right uniform. If you follow those three rules, you'll be fine.

+1 I should have caught this eariler; MARSOC is a advancement opportunity for reservists, but I'm almost certain there is not a reserve MARSOC unit. I call bullshit on that alone. Only SOCOM reserve units I know of are 19th, 20th, and Reserve PJ's and NSW.

On second thought..

If he is Recon or MSOAG he really shouldn't be asking these questions, let alone from civvies. M4A1 SOPMOD?? Not much CQB is nice, but he will likely see both kinds of combat. EOTechs are great.....to the limit of your vision. 200M engagements on average mean adding a magnifier at the least to that loadout. Not to mention that EOTech means batteries to carry and fail. ACOG is a good choice for distance. Tritium/Fiber powered so they won't go dark on you. The ACOG/RMR model even includes a reflex optic on top of it for close encounters. Only downside is the cost. A Night Vision device will be a near requirement, so whatever optic he goes with it will have to be able to have a NV device clipped in before or after. IMO, lining up sights with the helmet mount sucks and is not fast. Add in the AN/PEQ-2 and a foregrip and you got a heavy rifle to lug around. But this is a moot point if he really is Special, he should be issued this stuff.

Just identify yourself as an employee and an armed CHL holder when the police arrive.

.45 ACP > 9mm. Way better trigger than a Glock. The palm safety is nice too. Personally, I still reach for my Mossberg before the pistol. Just out of curiosity, why do you leave the Glock in the car? The lack of security would bug me, in addition to it being useless to me in the car.

Where is he being deployed? What unit? If he is combat arms they should issue him a M4 with full kit. If he is going to be a fobbit, a $1500 scope is kinda wasted. Not to mention there is a high possibility he won't be allowed to change his loadout from unit SOP.

Sorry to hear that. I reitierate what others are saying in that recovery is much better now a days. Everyone has their own coping mechanism. Some draw inwards, some use exercise/sports, some drink, some bury themselves in work; there are many things out there to occupy the thoughts. I deal best by talking about the situation to others. I find it very helpful because it lets me get things out to trusted people, and that lets my mind not dwell on it which just makes things worse. Staying strong for your family is a good, but what they really might need is to see you're hurting as much as they are and really sit down and talk about it. Everyone holding things in for each other makes all of you have to internalize problems instead of talking openly about them. Feel free to hit me up if needed.

For a confrontation at close range in confined spaces, 00 Buck is just about the perfect blend of stopping power, penetration, and still stopping in walls. It is equivalent to something like a 5-10 round burst from a 9mm sub if all pellets hit. Ow. At range and outdoors the rifle is king. Of course a kill shot at range is a lot harder to justify as self defense (Not in this guy's case since they were in his home). Shot placement is the most important factor. A .22lr has enough penetrating power to go through one side of the skull and not exit the other. Just bounces around. And a zeroed SIG 522 is lethally accurate with no recoil for really easy follow on shots. Of course a larger heaver round has its advantages too. The larger the entry wound, the more air is sucked into the body. A large exit wound give more opportunity for a quick bleed-out kill. But that also is using a round that will punch through someone and keep going for a while. (Albeit with less speed and tumbling) However a suppressed SBR chambered for 300 BLK firing subsonic would be an effective larger round that is still very effective with multiple shots while maintaining stealth and not requiring ear protection. Still won't beat a shotgun indoors though.