Elbows aren't more effective than guns, if that's what you've gleaned from my posts, you're doing it wrong... I'm confident enough in myself that I don't need a gun, clearly you are afraid of something, and that fear compells you to carry something that makes you feel powerful. If it comes down to gun vs fist, I'm liable to lose, but I refuse to allow fear to dictate my life... If it comes down to car vs motorcycle, again I'm liable to lose, I repeat, I refuse to allow fear to dictate my life... You do what you want, I fully support your rights, even if I find them utterly rediculous.