Gixxus Christ! Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Ok so last year we had a concrete patio put in and the guy fucked us in a number of ways. The most noticeable is that it drains to one central point that then floods. My idea is to put in a grated drain and bury 4" pipe to carry the water. Originally I was going to cut a gap in the curb stone and run it to the street but then I discovered these: http://m.homedepot.com/p/NDS-4-in-Polyethylene-Pop-Up-Drainage-Emitters-with-Elbow-422G/100153624?MERCH=REC-_-mobileweb_pip_rr-3-_-100164533-_-100153624-_-NSo I figure as long as this 'emitter' ends up being lower than the drain near the patio it should work fine. Anyone have any experience with these? Any better ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Got any pictures to demonstrate your problem? Hard to picture it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'll shoot some when I get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 So my first thought is cutting the curb sounds like the city hammering you real quick. If you use that gizmo then you are going to stop short of the curb.....the water will just come out there and flood that area won't it? What about French Drain? Big long pipe that holds the water until the ground can absorb it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Well if I used the thingy I'd run the pipe all the way up to the sidewalk so the water would follow it to my neighbors driveway 3 feet away and then flow to the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 French drains fail eventually when the gravel clogs up with silt and clay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o-no-moto Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 French drains fail eventually when the gravel clogs up with silt and clay. I think most anything French fails except for their kiss and a menage a tois 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 French drains fail eventually when the gravel clogs up with silt and clay.It takes a very long time to fill in with silt. If you are concerned with silt clogging it up, you can wrap it with filter fabric. ODOT and municipalities commonly use this to drain for roadways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Most French drains have a 30-50 year life expectancy pending how well it was constructed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 My point is that if I can move the water to the street where it will enter the storm drain system I will feel better about my property staying dryer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 If that's an option, it would be my first also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 So nobody's tried these goofy things? The reviews on home depot web site are mixed. Some people say their mowers lift up the caps and cut them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 I would do a French drain with the POS cap. Then if you shred it with the mower you cap it and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 That makes very little sense. The idea of the emitter is to carry the water away from the house via a 3" pipe. That means a narrow and relatively shallow trench. It also means not buying a bunch of gravel and other materials on top of the pipe. Tonik I understand you are a fan of french drains. It's been noted. If, once I stake, line and run a line level where I plan to dig I find I don't have sufficient slope to use this thingy, I'll consider a french drain vs running the additional 5 feet to the curb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 My plan makes perfect sense, you just haven't done as much acid as I have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 My plan makes perfect sense, you just haven't done as much acid as I have.Idk about that man, I used to trip balls every weekend. Most I ever took at a time was 6 hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Ok, the next step is clear. We need to drop some acid and sit in on your patio and wait for it to rain so we can ponder the plan. It may be awhile before it rains, we will need a lot of acid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarron77 Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 I haven't used the pop up type things, but I've put in French drains at most of the places I've lived and have been really happy with the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Ok, the next step is clear. We need to drop some acid and sit in on your patio and wait for it to rain so we can ponder the plan. It may be awhile before it rains, we will need a lot of acid.Lol, not sure I could handle acid man, I don't even smoke anymore. Maybe a few beers...and its gonna rain today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) French drains will last a LONG time if constructed properly. If you're concerned about silt buildup, use # 2's - not to mention they won't wash out during a downpour. Edited May 5, 2015 by baptizo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 I find frequent #2's help with build up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 I'll be doing some catch basins and french drains after i put my garage in. I'll have a water run off that will dam up on the north side of the garage that i need to divert to the opposite side along with the down spouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I find frequent #2's help with build up. That hasn't been my experience using them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Yeah I'll have to remember to not shit on may patio...should be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 My point is that if I can move the water to the street where it will enter the storm drain system I will feel better about my property staying dryer.[/quoteIs there a storm sewer near by? Most municipalities don't like people to dump water directly onto the road. Causes asphalt Rot over time and in the winter can cause freezing issues in the street. If it goes straight to a storm sewer there's less issue there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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