Laying the bike down.

[rollnhot]

Did you post a thread with pics? I seem to remember that from last year.

I think that was Danimal

[claine650]

Did you post a thread with pics? I seem to remember that from last year.

I hit one an posted, pics probably still in my gallery. Just straightened up out of a curve and hoped it would miss me as it took off, hit my headlights and died.

A few others ran into one around the same time coincidentally and posted, Damn vultures were on a mission to take bikers out.

The other was in fact danimal, he had vulture insides on the front of his.

Edited May 21, 2015 by claine650

[zx3vfr]

When cruiser riders stop avoiding the front brake, they'll stop sliding their bikes into shit.

Maybe.

Glad you're still here, man. The missus, too.

I was always under the impression from hearing things that on a cruiser the back brake was just more important than the front. I believed it until I rented a Fatboy a couple years ago. I ended up riding it the same way o would ride the vfr. 99.99%+ front brake only except in a hard braking situation when it was still 85% front.

[magley64]

I use both brakes, almost every time.

[blue03636]

I never use the rear unless I'm backing it in.

[Tonik]

I am always exactly 80/20 front/rear. I never miss even by 1%.

[Tonik]

I lied btw, with light pressure on either the linking does not kick in. So you can trail brake if you want to for example. It's all pretty damn cool.

[rollnhot]

I use very little rear brake on the street except to hold on incline. Use the rear a lot off road with the STen.

[jschaf]

I find that I can stop in the shortest distance if I keep my rear wheel about 1 inch off the pavement.

[sporttour]

Both brakes all the time.  Who practices emergency braking and emergency swerving at highway speeds?  I like to find a deserted road and practice at speeds between 50 and 80.  Even after eight to ten high speed emergency stops, my Brembos do not fade.  Good times.

[HeavyDuty]

I ride 480 during rush hour I get that practice everyday. I really love riding in traffic more then the twisties.

Edited May 23, 2015 by HeavyDuty

[Scruit]

I have heard people claim knowledge of some accident in which the "a helmet would have killed him" or "a seatbelt would have killed him". I categorize "I had to lay it down" together with those. It is something that they think is cool to say, but makes experienced and intelligent folks think; "dumbass".

Never say never - however real cases are so rare that nobody should actually plan on doing it.

[Staubig]

I have heard people claim knowledge of some accident in which the "a helmet would have killed him" or "a seatbelt would have killed him". I categorize "I had to lay it down" together with those. It is something that they think is cool to say, but makes experienced and intelligent folks think; "dumbass".

Never say never - however real cases are so rare that nobody should actually plan on doing it.

I wear my seatbelt *most* everywhere I drive, but I think there are scenarios where a seatbelt could kill you. The odds are NOT in your favor though. My buddy got in an accident where the dumbass driver ditched the car at 90mph. He was in the backseat and the axle broke and tore through into the cabin through the seat he would have been firmly glued to had he been wearing his seat belt. He admits this probably would have killed him, but now wears his seat belt religiously.

I'm not disagreeing with your points, I just think that wearing a seatbelt has a couple scenarios that could end badly. I don't think wearing a helmet has ever killed anybody though, and I'd love to hear somebody's anti-helmet rationale.

"I couldn't see the semi truck because the helmet limited my vision, so I had to lay the bike down" haha [emoji615]

Edited May 24, 2015 by Staubig

[what]

I can think of one scenario where wearing a helmet, not "laying her down" and wearing a seatbelt would all result in your death.

 

 

[motocat12]

I have a fear of successfully braking only to get rear mounted by a cage who doesn't, again. There's no shortage of short stopping drivers here. 

[Steve Butters]

My cousin was ejected from a car crash that would have killed him for sure if he hadn't been... He was very lucky to not be wearing it. Shit happens. I still wear mine though, because for every story where a seat belt causes death, there's probably a thousand where it saves

[Scruit]

My cousin was ejected from a car crash that would have killed him for sure if he hadn't been... He was very lucky to not be wearing it. Shit happens. I still wear mine though, because for every story where a seat belt causes death, there's probably a thousand where it saves

 

 

That's the key.  There are rare stories like "The passing truck just caught a half-inch of his helmet and broke his neck - if he had not been wearing a helmet then the semi would have missed his head."  or  "I hit a moose and survived by laying down across the bench seat - had I been wearing a seatbelt I'd have been held in place when the moose came through the windshield"

 

These stories exist, and they are probably true - but in the vast and overwhelming majority of cases the safest path is to wear the belt, wear the helmet, stay on your wheels.