Fin Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Why hasn't a motorcycle been made with this engine, the Duke engine? This seems to make perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Soul Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Weight. Rotating mass. Pull the clutch lever and blip the throttle. You'll feel the resulting torque. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 There are a few challenges with implementation of an engine like this... Rotating surfaces, dynamic seals, etc... And the performance difference doesn't amount to much... With electricity making leaps and bounds, and forced induction getting better, there is little incentive to reinvent the piston pump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 If you want to see a really innovative engine design look into OPOC (opposed piston, opposed cylinder) engines. Perfect primary and secondary balance, light weight, very few moving parts and incredibly efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiro Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 It's probably prohibitively expensive to set up shop to build something new like that. Then you need people who know how to service it. And where would you get parts for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Soul Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 4 hours ago, hiro said: It's probably prohibitively expensive to set up shop to build something new like that. Then you need people who know how to service it. And where would you get parts for it? http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=index&zenid=Rd1J-cQ9sDpdf1QXNc5Un0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiro Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, Wandering Soul said: http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=index&zenid=Rd1J-cQ9sDpdf1QXNc5Un0 Blinker fluid. Nice. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 12 hours ago, magley64 said: There are a few challenges with implementation of an engine like this... Rotating surfaces, dynamic seals, etc... And the performance difference doesn't amount to much...With electricity making leaps and bounds, and forced induction getting better, there is little incentive to reinvent the piston pump... Yes, electricity has huge torque advantages over conventional engines and the batteries are getting much better. As for distances... you cannot beat gas, hands down, for now. According to claims... this type of engine is not only much lighter, consumes less gas, much smaller, less complicated and thus more reliable, it also has more power. But theory is doesn't amount to a hill of beans if your life is on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 12 hours ago, CrazySkullCrusher said: If you want to see a really innovative engine design look into OPOC (opposed piston, opposed cylinder) engines. Perfect primary and secondary balance, light weight, very few moving parts and incredibly efficient. I saw that and immediately thought of the BMW in reverse. Yes... I think that engine is pretty sweet and I am surprised that BMW is not on that bandwagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, hiro said: It's probably prohibitively expensive to set up shop to build something new like that. Then you need people who know how to service it. And where would you get parts for it? Questions like that didn't stop Ford or Edison. In fact Ford was all about selling parts because he knew that's where the money was... still applies today. Parts and service... a fricken nightmare. Edited April 12, 2017 by Fin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Wandering Soul said: http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=index&zenid=Rd1J-cQ9sDpdf1QXNc5Un0 BeanCoAuto... conserves gas... fart in a jar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 12 hours ago, magley64 said: There are a few challenges with implementation of an engine like this... Rotating surfaces, dynamic seals, etc... And the performance difference doesn't amount to much... With electricity making leaps and bounds, and forced induction getting better, there is little incentive to reinvent the piston pump... http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1104090_2016-isle-of-man-tt-zero-race-electric-motorcycles-pushing-the-boundaries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 timing vs rpm locked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 9 hours ago, Fin said: Questions like that didn't stop Ford or Edison. In fact Ford was all about selling parts because he knew that's where the money was... still applies today. Parts and service... a fricken nightmare. Edison had Tesla to rip off...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 9 hours ago, Fin said: Yes, electricity has huge torque advantages over conventional engines and the batteries are getting much better. As for distances... you cannot beat gas, hands down, for now. Well sure, you got the better part of a century of infrastructure built for that fuel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 MotoCzysz http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/77886/1/pictures-the-motoczysz-c1.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, Isaac's Papa said: That engine is cool. It was a real shame that he finished it then motogp went to 800cc motors and he didn't have the cash to redo it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 January 1901- man, why did we get such junk in the 80s. And why are websites so broken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 he also died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, motocat12 said: he also died That was in the last year or two though. He got big in to electric bikes and running them at the isle of man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 3 hours ago, blue03636 said: MotoCzyszhttp://www.crash.net/motogp/news/77886/1/pictures-the-motoczysz-c1.html That was back in 2012/13. Whatever became of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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