NightHawk_ Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Hey guys, So I was hoping to get in a track day or two this summer. I was going to go to NYST with some friends who ride (and live near) there, anyways I was going to go on a 'Rookie Day' - they have like teaching sessions, plus you follow instructors and build up speed, have suit rentals, etc. Well, that kind of fell through so I'm back to lookin "local" and was wondering what I could expect from a Novice session at Mid-Ohio? I've been riding for about 3 years now, takin' trips (was at the Tail of The Dragon last year - was awesome), as well riding most days when the weather permits. Though I didn't want to just jump into the track, because I know it's a whole different beast. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Novice at Mid Ohio is very structured. Novices are broken up into groups based on pace (you are not stuck in one group if you find you are faster/slower than tou thought). Just bump up or down based on how you are feeling. (Within N of course.) Groups are lead around by a CR that sets the pace and shows you the line. Pace picks up as the day goes on in all groups but no CR will leave you hanging. I believe you are lead around by instructors the entire day (but pace increases as the day goes on.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawk_ Posted June 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Thanks for the reply I appreciate it! What's the situation on Gear Rental? I dont have a suit or Gauntlet Gloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 They have rental leathers, don't know about gloves though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawk_ Posted June 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 8 hours ago, Isaac's Papa said: Buy gloves. Rent suit. Thing is I have nice gloves, they're just short cuff. Im not sure if it's worth it to buy gloves for a session - especially cause track time is expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekClouser Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 49 minutes ago, NightHawk_ said: Thing is I have nice gloves, they're just short cuff. Im not sure if it's worth it to buy gloves for a session - especially cause track time is expensive But then you'll have them... They aren't disposable. You'll have them for years to come! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawk_ Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 4 hours ago, DerekClouser said: But then you'll have them... They aren't disposable. You'll have them for years to come! 22 minutes ago, Isaac's Papa said: Yeah... they aren't potato chips. No I totally agree, it's just I could use that $100+ towards the Track day, unfortunately I am on a limited budget :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 get the right gear... and you wont have to worry about it again.. if the right gloves are holding you back go to iron pony and get a set of 50 buck gauntlets ... this sport can be cheap (trackdays that is) but you still need to set your self up right 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawk_ Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 You guys are right, I ordered some Closeout Gloves on STG! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 13 hours ago, TwiztedRabbit said: this sport can be cheap (trackdays that is) Can you PM me with more details about this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 haha dude I did track days sleeping in the back of a $500 trailer... with a $2000 daily driver on closeout gear and street tires for 2-3 years maaaaybe spend 400 a weekend total.. travel days food everything doing 1 weekend a month so what maybe 1600 bucks a year? now... now I refuse to add it up as i'll most likely burn my garage down.... 3 bikes, big truck, toyhauler, 3 gennys, 3 sets of race tires, gas, travel, food, day expenses... ect.... but is the sport just as fun in the beginning as now.. absolutely... just don't play "keeping up with the joneses" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester_ Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 If you need some.gloves let me know when you are going. I have a spare set of A* gp pro you can use if they fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) ^ To that end, idk what your dimensions are, but I have a suit that you could buy to get you going. Edited June 22, 2017 by TimTheAzn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 21 hours ago, TwiztedRabbit said: haha dude I did track days sleeping in the back of a $500 trailer... with a $2000 daily driver on closeout gear and street tires for 2-3 years maaaaybe spend 400 a weekend total.. travel days food everything doing 1 weekend a month so what maybe 1600 bucks a year? What were track fees when you were able to do a full weekend for $400? I could MAYBE have done a weekend at Nelson Ledges for $400, but only because it was super cheap fees, and close to me, without any tolls. $195/day or $365/weekend at Mid-Ohio. PIRC is up over $200/day for the full course, which is all anybody wants to run. I think $500/weekend is about as cheap as you can get away with, if you're realistic about tire wear and the like. $365 for the fees, (plus $10 for gate?), then figure you burn $15 in gas pulling the bike to and from the track, and burn $5 in gas riding. Somehow I always managed to spend $10 on ice, and another $10 on bottled water, gatorade, etc. I won't count the cost of food, because you'd eat at home anyway, but I could only live off PB&J at the track so many times. I usually end up going out to dinner and spending a few bucks more than I would have at home. at $300/set (which I think is generously cheap), I would use a rear tire up in 2 weekends, and a front in 4 weekends. Assuming $180 and $120 for rear/front, that's $90/weekend on a rear tire and $30/weekend on the front, so $120 in tire wear. Generator gas or paying for electricity at the track adds a few more dollars, beer, and then the possibility of crashing. We're well over $500 with zero frills and no crashes. If I factored in the higher cost of track time at PIRC, and the insane tolls the PA turnpike charges for an additional axle on the trailer, I'd be up over $600 before we even get to the Italian restaurant or the skeezy strip club (both of which are essential). It's all worth it, but this is why I'm currently racing mountain bikes and the only motorcycle I own has 6hp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawk_ Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 20 hours ago, Jester_ said: If you need some.gloves let me know when you are going. I have a spare set of A* gp pro you can use if they fit. 9 hours ago, TimTheAzn said: ^ To that end, idk what your dimensions are, but I have a suit that you could buy to get you going. Wow, I really appreciate it! I am not sure what my Dimensions are yet, havent measured. I just ordered a $40 pair of Speed and Strength Gauntlet Gloves. So now Im just "missing" the suit, which I'm fine with renting, because on the very slim off chance I dont like it I dont want to have a suit hangin around. Im currently looking at the July days and/or August! I think I saw there was an O.R's Trackday thing in August as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, redkow97 said: What were track fees when you were able to do a full weekend for $400? I could MAYBE have done a weekend at Nelson Ledges for $400, but only because it was super cheap fees, and close to me, without any tolls. $195/day or $365/weekend at Mid-Ohio. PIRC is up over $200/day for the full course, which is all anybody wants to run. I think $500/weekend is about as cheap as you can get away with, if you're realistic about tire wear and the like. $365 for the fees, (plus $10 for gate?), then figure you burn $15 in gas pulling the bike to and from the track, and burn $5 in gas riding. Somehow I always managed to spend $10 on ice, and another $10 on bottled water, gatorade, etc. I won't count the cost of food, because you'd eat at home anyway, but I could only live off PB&J at the track so many times. I usually end up going out to dinner and spending a few bucks more than I would have at home. at $300/set (which I think is generously cheap), I would use a rear tire up in 2 weekends, and a front in 4 weekends. Assuming $180 and $120 for rear/front, that's $90/weekend on a rear tire and $30/weekend on the front, so $120 in tire wear. Generator gas or paying for electricity at the track adds a few more dollars, beer, and then the possibility of crashing. We're well over $500 with zero frills and no crashes. If I factored in the higher cost of track time at PIRC, and the insane tolls the PA turnpike charges for an additional axle on the trailer, I'd be up over $600 before we even get to the Italian restaurant or the skeezy strip club (both of which are essential). It's all worth it, but this is why I'm currently racing mountain bikes and the only motorcycle I own has 6hp... stt weekends way back in the day with memberships and whatnot around 165 a day... 300-330 for a weekend. don't count lunch have to eat anyways. bought 2-3 gallons of water at walmart for 5 bucks. snacks well same pbj and cheapo chips... tires would last me in 2009 6-7 days a rear and a go through 2 fronts a year...(no street riding) no gate fees at Putnam or mid ohio all I went to for years. still 400 no more than 450 for an entire weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 hours ago, NightHawk_ said: Wow, I really appreciate it! I am not sure what my Dimensions are yet, havent measured. I just ordered a $40 pair of Speed and Strength Gauntlet Gloves. So now Im just "missing" the suit, which I'm fine with renting, because on the very slim off chance I dont like it I dont want to have a suit hangin around. Im currently looking at the July days and/or August! I think I saw there was an O.R's Trackday thing in August as well! You don't happen to know your suit size would you? I have an extra that you could borrow if you don't want to rent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawk_ Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, blue03636 said: You don't happen to know your suit size would you? I have an extra that you could borrow if you don't want to rent. Not sure, Im 6'1 185 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I'm 5'10 same weight. I have a 44, might be a bit big for you though. Not 100% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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