2talltim Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Well you all know I eat through tires like a fat kid eats sugar in the WillyWonka factory. Just sold my 4 wheeler and have some cash in my pocket. I want a tire changer for my garage Been bouncing around different ideas from a cheap electric changer from ebay to a nomar (that are onsale this weekend by the way). Would like to be able to do car tires too but balancing those would be a issue without and spin machine. What do some of you all have and how do you like them. Any other ideas, thoughts or imputs are welcome as well Edited September 2, 2017 by 2talltim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilD'oh! Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I've been using a modified Gen 1 Harbor Freight for a lot of years now, but if I were to have to buy now, it'd be a Nomar unit. My HF paid for itself on the first set of tires. No Mar would take a little longer, butvworth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer_kaw Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I also use the harbor freight setup with the moto attachment. I bought a mojolever for slipping them off and mojoblocks made to fit into the HF changing stand. Marc Parnes static balance works very well also. All equipment paid for itself in one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, PhilD'oh! said: I've been using a modified Gen 1 Harbor Freight for a lot of years now, but if I were to have to buy now, it'd be a Nomar unit. My HF paid for itself on the first set of tires. No Mar would take a little longer, butvworth it. 23 minutes ago, Killer_kaw said: I also use the harbor freight setup with the moto attachment. I bought a mojolever for slipping them off and mojoblocks made to fit into the HF changing stand. Marc Parnes static balance works very well also. All equipment paid for itself in one season. This question is probaly more directed a Phil but do either of you guys have any problem breaking beads or getting a GT or A spec touring tire to go on or off? That is my concern with the HF unit also concerned about scratching the rim. I originally said the Nomar cylehill unit would be the cheapest route i would go but you two have made it interesting with the less than $150 set ups Edited September 2, 2017 by 2talltim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer_kaw Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 The bead breaker on the HF unit works well. Just had to put some 2x4's together to lay tire on to not damage the rotors. I cut a piece out of a milk jug to wrap around breaker so I won't scratch rim. Mojoblocks do a good job of protecting rim I changer. I've mounted a spec angels for the zrx and they're harder but definitely doable. Technique with the bar has a lot to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilD'oh! Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I agree with everything K-k said. I use a piece of tire on the bead breaker hump to protect the rims from scratches and a 2x4 just like him to protect the brake disk, no problem breaking the bead. The Mojoblocks keep you from scratching the rims when clamped down, but I don't go crazy cranking them down, rather just use a couple straps through the spokes to keep it from rotating. The Mojo bar and some good lube make it possible to change even the stiffest wall tires, but it's mostly about technique, which will be true no matter which set up you go with. I use a couple extra large quick clamps to pinch the tire beads together to keep them in the center of the wheel, that helps. I drilled four holes in my garage floor and use some drop in lag bolt anchors to bolt the whole thing down so it's rock solid. The 99% of the time it's not being used, it's stored up in the attic. I know a lot of folks that aren't comfortable drilling holes in their concrete floor, so they bolt it to some plywood, seems to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Okay just did the math and a HF set up with mojo upgrades with a bar and buying some lube will be around $250 Right now a No-mar cyclehill changer is $410 delivered comes with lube. A classic N0-mar changer is $600 deliverd with lube. OR This power unit on ebay that gets really good reviews. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mayflower-Tire-Changer-Wheel-Changers-Machine-Rim-Clamp-560-1-5-HP-Horse-Power-/191735100025?epid=1356505172&hash=item2ca44d7279:g:jv8AAOSwhQhY2GH4 Also these combos with the spin machine for a few hundy more... http://www.ebay.com/itm/191735101343?ul_noapp=true are my front runnners.... Edited September 2, 2017 by 2talltim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I had the HF setup years ago and thought it did the job just fine. Made the appropriate upgrades and really it seemed to work well. One day I felt like spending money so I went ahead and got the $650 classic no mar and it's like night and day. Your budget will determine what works best, but I'd pick the no mar, when given the choice between it and the HF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSerfozo Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I also use a modified HF unit. I helped a friend swap PR4-GTs on his C14 and had no problems. I just bought a Nomar yellow thing and I'm excited to try it changing tires on the Bandit tomorrow or Monday. If you wanna come over to the NE corner of Cols, you can watch/help. Or you can bring your wheels & tires and we'll do all 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Really leaning towards the no-mar classic. It's a forever changer, life time warranty solid as a rock no motor vavles or switches to break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfman1 Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Helped to change many tires on the Nomar, if @whaler didn't have one in his garage 10 minutes from my house, I would have bought one myself. You never have to worry about scuffing up a rim with the Nomar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drc32-0 Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 2 hours ago, 2talltim said: Really leaning towards the no-mar classic. It's a forever changer, life time warranty solid as a rock no motor vavles or switches to break. ...and it's made in America.If you're going to the AIME show they might have some deals.Check their website for what days they're going to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 7 hours ago, drc32-0 said: ...and it's made in America.If you're going to the AIME show they might have some deals.Check their website for what days they're going to be there. Deals going on right now labor day weekend sale. Think it's$110 off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 I've got a Cycle Hill changer, and it does a good job. I have never tried the other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 About to pull the trigger on a No-Mar classic with the ultimate package. Looking at $947 with the optional hitch mount or $860 with out the hitch mount. Any last min input?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Did someone hack your account? You never spend money like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tonik said: Did someone hack your account? You never spend money like this. I know right, why I haven't hit the submit button yet..LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 still trying to decide to go the big package or just get a cheaper balancer else where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Isaac's Papa said: Take your time. They're not going anywhere. The sale ends a midnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Order Placed went with the ultimate package just so I had everything of the same quality and company. Decided against the hitch mount right now didn't see a use for it at this time. This is what i got $868 with one extra tub of lube and shipping. https://www.nomartirechanger.com/Classic_Model_Tire_Changer_Ultimate_Package_p/tc-classic-ultimate.htm Edited September 5, 2017 by 2talltim 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Terrible choice and an irresponsible use of your money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, Tonik said: Terrible choice and an irresponsible use of your money. Track guys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojocho Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 I'd consider the hitch mount. I have the cycle hill and they don't have a hitch mount for it. I don't have room to mount the tire changer to the floor so I've got it on a piece 1/2 inch plywood. Sometimes on the stiffer front tires, I struggle and the whole changer rotates. The tire mount would keep it solid. I've had this for years and it's paid for itself. Biggest advice I'd give is that the tires are much easier on and off when they are warm. Either sitting in the sun or in front of a space heater. They come off and on like butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, mojocho said: I'd consider the hitch mount. I have the cycle hill and they don't have a hitch mount for it. I don't have room to mount the tire changer to the floor so I've got it on a piece 1/2 inch plywood. Sometimes on the stiffer front tires, I struggle and the whole changer rotates. The tire mount would keep it solid. I've had this for years and it's paid for itself. Biggest advice I'd give is that the tires are much easier on and off when they are warm. Either sitting in the sun or in front of a space heater. They come off and on like butter. Good info. Yea I'm bolting mine to the floor. I have 24x40 garage so I have plenty of room to put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, 2talltim said: Good info. Yea I'm bolting mine to the floor. I have 24x40 garage so I have plenty of room to put it. Get the hitch mount. Then you can come to the track and be our tire bitch. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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