Science Abuse Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Question for all who are chastising anyone who mentions racing: Does it matter? Whether a car is next to you or not, you're still taking the same risk when you mash the gas. It's no more or less irresponsible. He was driving fast in a group of cars, either competitively, showing off, or just having a good time. Why does it matter which one it was? If you had to choose what headline followed your accidental death, what would you rather: Died Racing Died showing off Die screwing around Getting bent out of shape over the mention of racing is retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Honestly, can't George just rest in peace. +237045623084756 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Apex Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I don't think Channel 10 appreciated the message I sent to their site, but I do think they understand why we are angry with them. One thing they mentioned in their reply was that they are pretty desparate to interview someone who was close with George and they seem kinda pissed that nobody has agreed to be interviewed. If anyone wants to see the replies that I got for whatever reason, feel free to PM me. When they just spew heresay and not fact they don't deserve an interview, they're going to distort what anyone says anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 From the newscasts and vids of it that I've seen, I thought it was pretty clear that for each statement they were simply reporting the details came from what the police were telling them. if the police believed racing & alcohol was involved, then that's what they will and did report. I don't know if he was or not, and I'm just looking at it from the rest of the worlds view for the sake of discussion: They have reports of a high speed head on cross over accident involving a modified sports car, driven by an individual who is part of an online community that states it does not condone illegal racing but is filled with talk of it, police records of numerous driving violations involving alcohol and high speeds, police indications that alcohol was scattered about his vehicle, and of course the web images and vids that certainly don't help the cause.....and I'm sure some un-released facts we've yet to hear....if we even do. Based on all that, sure, folks will form their own opinions, many of which we don't like and may not reflect his good sides, but nonetheless, they are just reporting the news. IMO, he didn't have to be racing another car in a staged race to be said to have been racing. Perhaps he was simply driving fast in a pack or even by himself. Would there really be an issue if they called it wrecklessness or didn't mention CR? I don't think so. In the end, a poor family is still left without a father and a good man won't get to enjoy his kids growing up. If anything good comes from this, I personally am going to make it a point of being much more careful and aware. I didn't know George, but it's something I can do in his memory. Not for my own sake, but for that of those around me. Regarding the interview, I wouldn't say they don't deserve an interview. It's George that deserves the interview. I would also say they should understand the many reasons why no one wants to comment on the matter. If anyone, but even still, not without risk, the board owners. Anything mentioned can and will be used in some way or fashion that may not be good or bad for him or us here. When they just spew heresay and not fact they don't deserve an interview, they're going to distort what anyone says anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I disagree pddqdpdpdpqd I think its important to point out the info as it is and let people make there own conclusions instead of letting the news decide for you. The fact CR is mentioned is not the first time we've been on the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I'm not saying let the news form our opinions, but don't shame them for reporting what is told to them at that point in time. They were simply spewing back what the police told them. The liberty of expanding the story to include details on Nitrous and what not....weather we like it or not, that's just the news making a story viewable and drawing in an audience. I would love to have just the facts, but the fact of the matter is news stations are also there to draw an audience that will in turn bring advertising, etc...it's a business, not just a fact based information source. IMO if anyone thinks what the news stations, including and especially CNN or our own stations are gospel fact without any spin, then they need to bone up on life and reality and crawl out from under their rock. Life is all about spin. We here all may know that and get frustrated that others don't, but we can't worry too much about all that. There's a time and place to fight the "spin" from the news. However, while I didn't know George, I bet he would rather have everyone celebrate his life. The cruise is an awesome thing to do. Hopefully the news can put a "spin" on the threads here and the good things that do go on. Who knows...maybe they should be given a series of interviews that show them the other side of CR. The one where events are organized and friends are supported vs what they believe we're about. The illegal and wrong stuff exists and we all know it, but let's show them the organized legal stuff and good side to a hobby that has folks from all walks of life. Instead of letting them report on the incident, let's turn this around and make it what we want them to report. We'd have to act quick though as once the story subsides, they won't care about it. This whole thing would be best led by Anthony or someone from CR proper though. I disagree pddqdpdpdpqd I think its important to point out the info as it is and let people make there own conclusions instead of letting the news decide for you. The fact CR is mentioned is not the first time we've been on the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotrodmama024 Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Did anyone get a letter back from the news station? I got an email this morning regarding it, asking if any of use would like to talk on George's behalf. The way i knew George i think he would have wanted this much attention. not necessarly the way it happened, but to be known and go down in history. Maybe we should give the news station a story on George and his good side too? Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think we should have anthony or chris say something. I got the same letter asking if I would interview they also called my and dr ricks cell phones. As I'm not the best at public speaking I would rather not say something that would make us look bad. But I think we should say something. But atleast the email had some affect. CYA at the cruise peeps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZYUL8TR Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think we ALL need to shut up as far as the racing goes at this point. A good man has died. Cant we just discuss his good attributes. For the love of god people, let some people mourn. The racing is a mood point right now. It doesnt matter how he died, it matters that he was a good man and he is no longer here to make us laugh. AT LEAST WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE MAN IS LAID TO REST BEFORE SOME OF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO JUSTIFY. I COULD CARE LESS ON OPINIONS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think we ALL need to shut up as far as the racing goes at this point. A good man has died. Cant we just discuss his good attributes. For the love of god people, let some people mourn. The racing is a mood point right now. It doesnt matter how he died, it matters that he was a good man and he is no longer here to make us laugh. AT LEAST WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE MAN IS LAID TO REST BEFORE SOME OF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO JUSTIFY. I COULD CARE LESS ON OPINIONS. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Agreed. + infinity. Remember, just because its in the news does not mean the info is accurate. The news will take what ever you say and twist it around so just ignore them. Leave it alone please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sslbn8o Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I watched the news and caught they said someone from CR told the media he was street racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I watched the news and caught they said someone from CR told the media he was street racing. They did, ignore it. The little d-bag just wants attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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